Eric Lindsey has over 17 years of Construction experience, but has shifted his attention solely to workforce housing within the Manufactured homes and Apartments sector of Real Estate. Eric’s Real Estate career began in 2017 with discovering The Bigger Pockets Podcast.

Here’s some of the topics we covered:

  • Transitioning From Carpentry To Multifamily
  • Cold Calling To Generate Deals
  • Mobile Home Parks vs. Single Family
  • The Infrastructure To The Mobile Home Parks
  • Rent Increase Opportunities On Mobile Home Parks
  • Increasing Occupancy In Mobile Home Parks

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Intro
Hi. My name is Rod Khleif, and I’m the host of “The Lifetime Cash Flow Through Real Estate Investing” podcast. And every week, I interview Multifamily Rock Stars and we talk about how they built incredible wealth for themselves and their families through multifamily properties. So hit the “Like” and “Subscribe” buttons to get notified every Monday when a new episode comes out. Let’s get to it.

Rod
Welcome back to Multifamily Rock Star. So as you guys know, this is where we interview people that are just flat-out crushing it in this business. And we show you the inside scoop into how multifamily investors are creating massive success in their businesses and in their lives. And as always, I’ve got my co-host, who’s the director of our massive action team for our Warrior Mentorship group, Mark Nagy on the call. Mark, what’s up, brother?

Mark
Pretty boring over here, Rod, but I know you’ve got a pretty jam-packed weekend here, 500 plus people [inaudible]

Rod
I think it’s going to be pushing 600, actually. Yeah, I think it’s going to be pushing 600. Yeah, we’ve got our–

Mark
I [inaudible] back and watching, so–

Rod
Yeah. I wish I could.

Mark
Yeah, I know.

Rod
I’ll be wiped out by this time Monday. But listen, we’ve got a great guest today. His name is Eric Lindsey, and Eric’s got a lot of experience in the business. He’s got 17 years of construction experience. He’s done a lot of wholesaling, you know, he’s a General Partner in mobile home parks. He’s done a lot of, you know, single-family home transactions. He’s a licensed Realtor and has been for over four years. Been a Warrior for a good bit now and has done deals as a Warrior, 78 doors, I think, since joining the Warrior Program. So we’re lucky to have him. Welcome, brother.

Eric
Oh, thanks, Rod for having me. And it’s definitely a privilege to be on here today.

Rod
Well, thank you for that. So why don’t you just take a minute and give us kind of a high-level overview. I didn’t do it any– your bio, there are a lot of things I missed. You know, give us kind of a high-level overview of your background and experience, and then we’ll roll in some questions.

Eric
Yeah, so it’ll be my privilege here. So my background– first off, I’m married, three children, one grandchild.

Mark
Nice.

Eric
I was talking to a gentleman a little bit earlier, he was saying, I looked at 30, so I don’t know how I’d be able to pull a grinch out off at 30, but we’ll see.

Rod
No, I agree, man. I’m shocked, actually, hearing that. Totally shocked because I didn’t know if you were single, married. I never asked you that question, but wow. Okay. Well–

Eric
Yeah. So 42 years old, based out of Kansas City, Missouri. My real estate background started right at about six years ago. So I have 17 years of construction experience, and so I’m a union carpenter by trade. And it started off really rosy in the beginning, really stable job, really good way to provide for a family. And I started kind of running into those layoffs. So 2008, 2009 hit and I started getting laid off on a regular basis and so that set me down the path to try to figure out how could I shore my family up. So I started looking into all kinds of different investment vehicles and it kind of let me down a path to real estate. And so, long story short, started educating, learning, getting on BiggerPockets, the whole nine yards and I soon kind of made my mind up that I was going to get into wholesaling and I locked in on wholesaling. A short time after locking in, I stumbled across a mobile home park podcast and it was a syndicator that hosted it. And so he was incentivizing his listeners to locate him a deal and if you were able to locate a deal for him, he would cut you in on it and basically pay you out a portion of the acquisition fee. He ended up paying me out $125. So I located a 600-space mobile home park and I partnered him and the seller together and he was able to close on the deal. So from there, I was off to the races. I opened up a full-blown wholesaling company here in Kansas City, started closing between 20 to 25 deals a year, and soon realized that that was another job, and so didn’t want to continue down that path. And I’d been following you, listening to your podcast for four to five years and I knew within my mind as soon as I had the opportunity, I was going to make the jump and that’s kind of what led me to where I am to here I am today and been in your group right at about a year now and successfully closed my first syndication, 78 units, a mobile home park located in Tennessee with two other Warriors within a group.

Rod
Nice. Nice. Now, did you join at the Orlando Boot camp? Is that where you joined?

Eric
So I joined right before.

Rod
Okay. Okay.

Eric
I was so excited, you know, I ended up buying a park before I jumped into the Warrior group, but then I sold it, I exited it and I had some extra cash on hand, so I knew I wanted to follow you, jump in with your team.

Rod
Right.

Eric
And so it was right before the Warrior group, so I couldn’t wait.

Rod
Nice. Nice. Nice. So I have a question. Well, first of all, was it my friend Kevin that you did that deal with, or was it someone else?

Eric
So, I’ve been in close communication with Kevin through the years and I haven’t actually done one with him yet, but it was another guy.

Rod
Oh, let me give him a shout-out. So Kevin Buff, a very, very good friend of mine, has a mobile home park podcast, has dozens of mobile home parks and actually, my brother works with him and he’s just a super guy, filled with integrity and he’s raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for my charity. So I just want to give him a quick shout-out, but let me ask you a question. How did you find that mobile home park? How did you find the deals that you found for wholesaling? Let’s talk about that for just a minute.

Eric
Yeah. So I specialize in going direct to seller and you can locate these sellers by various different methods. Sometimes it’s as simple as jumping in a telephone book or going and do a Google search and just looking up apartments or mobile home parks and just calling through the list. This particular individual that I located and put the syndicator in contact with, I just went on “MHVillage.com” and just randomly started calling people.

Rod
Oh, you found it. Wow. Okay.

Eric
Yeah. And so, you know, he wasn’t too sophisticated. He was still answering the phone and operating the park.

Rod
The 600 spaces?

Eric
Oh, yeah.

Rod
Wow.

Eric
Yeah. And that’s kind of one of the secrets that been, you know, it’s kind of getting out now with the mobile home park industry, you could get direct to seller pretty easy with a lot of the mobile home park owners.

Rod
Yeah, no, I actually had eight virtual assistants working for a full year, mapping every mobile home park in the country. They’d go on Google Earth, they’d fly around because a lot of them aren’t mapped out. I never pulled the trigger on it. I went into– back into regular multifamily apartments. But, yeah, no. Awesome. So did you do any direct mail or was it just pick up the phone and cold call?

Eric
Yeah, so I’ve dabbled in direct mail. Direct mail has not really netted me a whole lot of good results is the more expensive marketing channel. I prefer to do cold calls. So within my wholesaling journey, 98% of all the properties that I close has been cold call.

Rod
Got you.

Eric
And so I close easily, somewhere close to 150, maybe 175 transactions.

Rod
Got you. Got you. And you’re doing a really good job.

Mark
I’ve been seeing that’s a favorite lately of a lot of the Warriors, cold calling. I’ve been seeing that a lot in the group. That’s what a lot of the guys are teaching. For the listeners who don’t know– and I don’t even know what are some of the benefits, pros, and cons of doing those mobile home parks versus maybe a traditional multifamily or even like a single-family.

Eric
Yeah. So mobile home parks, they are unique because they cater towards specific segments of society. And so, you know, apartments, you’re going to be more focused on the working class individuals that can afford to pay 700, 800, 900, $1,000 a month for rent. But mobile home parks, they like rent is– I mean, it can be as low as $150 and it can get up to, you know, 500 and 600 in the Colorado markets and the more higher price markets. But here in the Midwest, you know, they’re still stagnant around 300, $350 a month. And so that hits a segment of society that they need to be served housing, they have a great need for housing and it’s the affordable housing cure for, you know, America.

Rod
Sure. No, that is the demographic that’s getting hurt right now with inflation and gas and food prices and everything else, you know, that lowest you know, income demographic. The thing that’s in your favor, obviously, with a mobile home park is if they own the home, which is the ideal way to do it and just do lot rent, then, you know, it’s a big deal to try to move a home. It costs thousands of dollars, and most people can’t afford it unless you know, it’s another park trying to poach them you know, into their park. But, you know, so you do have a little bit of an edge there where they’re going to do everything they can to not lose their home. So that 78-unit was a mobile home park. Where was that located?

Eric
Yeah. So the 78-unit that I closed with the two Warriors, that was located within Johnson City, Tennessee.

Rod
Okay. Oh, got you. Okay. Yeah, no, that’s a good market.

Mark
What’s the plan on those? Is it much value ad you can do?

Rod
Yes. Hold on, hold on. I want to ask that question, but I want to build into that. So forgive me, Mark, for interrupting. You know, so my question to you is– and one of the things that I know a lot about mobile home park investing, and although I haven’t pulled the trigger on it, I’ve been around it for a very long time. You know and one of the things that comes to mind is that you know, I don’t recommend you do parks under about 40 spaces because you can’t have an onsite manager, and you’re killing yourself. Now, do you have an onsite manager at that 78-unit that you’re managing?

Eric
Yes, sir.

Rod
Okay.

Eric
So we do have a manager already on site.

Rod
Okay.

Eric
So this particular park, it was run by a gentleman. He was 81 years old. This person, he really wanted to get out of business. I met him, he had a fall recently, and he was pretty much just kind of fed up.

Rod
He was done.

Eric
Yeah, he was liquidating things, and so we got this thing out of steel. But to answer your question, so if there was a park manager that was already in place, he basically was operating the whole operation.

Rod
Right.

Eric
And the guy it was just like turnkey for the owner.

Rod
Nice.

Eric
He didn’t keep up with anything.

Rod
Nice. That’s unusual.

Eric
He could still be in promo.

Rod
Yeah, typically you got to bring somebody in and– but let me ask you this. Let me mention something, and then you can tell me what this park has. So one of the things you really have to pay attention to with a mobile home park is the infrastructure. You know, for example, is it on well water or is it on city water? Is it on a sewer or a septic system? You know, what’s the electrical system look like? So in this particular situation, what’s the answer to those questions?

Eric
Yeah, so I always prefer public utilities.

Rod
Right.

Eric
I wouldn’t shy away from private. You just kind of got to know how to mitigate things.

Rod
Right.

Eric
Can you connect to public? You just got to know your options whenever you’re dealing with mobile home parks. But this particular park, it’s 100% public utilities.

Rod
Fantastic. That’s ideal.

Eric
Yeah, I mean, so we just have no headache at all. Initially, we thought there was some orangeburg and that’s something else you– some of your listeners may want to watch out for, orangeburg, sewer piping. It presents many challenges.

Rod
It disintegrates, yeah.

Eric
It presents many challenges and the best thing to do is to–

Rod
Replace it.

Eric
Yeah, to replace it. And we thought we had some, but we discovered pleasantly that they–

Rod
They did it.

Eric
Yeah.

Rod
A couple of other notes on that. So if you see an asset, you know, a mobile home park, because this is unusual for us to talk about mobile home parks on the show, so I want to elaborate a little bit and add some value for you guys. And so, if you see a mobile home park, again, the system is the most important piece. If you have well water and the well goes bad or the well goes dry, you’re out of business. So you should always have a second option with the ability to connect to, you know, municipal water. Okay? So that should be like a back-of-the-napkin exit plan in case there’s a problem with the well water. Same thing with the septic system. If you’ve got septic systems or, you know, a few around the park, you should have the ability to connect to the sewer in case there’s a problem with the septic systems. Now, sometimes you’ll have actual sewage plants in these mobile home parks and they can be very expensive. I mean, upwards of 100,000 to hundreds of thousands. And so, you know, if you see one of those, you should absolutely have it checked out by an expert. So again, it’s the systems that are the biggest thing and the real business model that’s the most successful is if you see a park that has park-owned homes where they’re basically renting the home like they’re renting a house, you want to try to sell those and convert it to lot rent as soon as you can. For a lot of reasons. The biggest one being pride of ownership. People take better care of it. They’ll you know– do you agree with me on this, Eric?

Eric
Oh, yeah, definitely. And then it cuts down on the expense ratio.

Rod
Right.

Eric
So, you know, mobile homes, they just don’t hold up. It’s not like a stick-building home, it’s not like an apartment. It’s basically tin cans that are going to take on water and rust out and it’s a major issue and it’s really labor intensive and expensive.

Rod
Yeah.

Mark
Awesome. So what’s the play on these sorts of deals? I don’t know if there’s much rent increase opportunity on mobile home parks or if it’s more just cutting down on expenses, managing it better, and just slowly going up over time. But what’s the plan and the play around these sorts of deals?

Rod
Business plan. Yeah.

Eric
Yeah. So business plans can come in various different you know, schemes or plans here. So you could develop it out, you could add more homes if the city allows it, and so you can, you know, increase the occupancy that way. If there are empty lots within the park when you take possession of it, you could bring in homes. You can drive up the NOI that way, you can take advantage of mismanaged expenses. You can convert the water to like public water, and you can also build it back to the tenant. So there are many different ways to capitalize on driving it in a while on a mobile home park.

Rod
What specifically comes to mind in that particular park in Tennessee? Anything?

Eric
Yeah, so we’re looking at increasing the occupancy as far as– there are just two empty paths. We want to bring in a couple of homes. The lot rent on average was somewhere close to right at about $150.

Rod
Wow. Wow.

Eric
It was $150 on average amongst 78 or 76 occupied homes or pads within the park. So the market is right at about $350.

Rod
Yeah.

Eric
So we’re going to bump it. You know, we already came in and bumped it, and the tenants, they didn’t offer any pushback. They knew they were getting a home run, a slam dunk deal. So we can [inaudible]

Rod
I assume you’re staggering it, though. You’re not going to hit them all at once, is that correct?

Eric
Yeah, so we didn’t hit them all at once, but we did do a decent increase. I think we brought it up to about 230 somewhere around there.

Rod
That’s good.

Eric
So we didn’t go all the way with it. But we’re going to come in and operate it as professionals, as sophisticated operators, and make it look a lot better at signage, a new mailbox, the typical value ad.

Rod
The outside stuff that you do to make people know that you know, there’s a new person in town, they’re going to take care of it, and you really care about the asset and so on and so forth. And by the way, guys, even with multi, you know, with normal apartment complexes, that’s the first thing you should do. We’ve got this asset in Nashville that we just closed on, although we’re still raising a little bit of money. I got a little behind on the race because I went to Europe for three weeks and then I had this damn hurricane. And excuses are like armpits. Everybody has them and they stink. But that’s my– I haven’t worked this thing as hard as–

Mark
Pretty good excuse, Rod.

Rod
Yeah, it is a pretty good excuse.

Mark
Yeah.

Rod
But, you know, by the way, if you’re accredited and you haven’t heard about that deal, go to “CREECapital.com” and check it out. It is a screaming deal, and there’s still a little bit of room left in it. It’s in Tennessee. And the reason I bring that up is, you know, we actually closed on it Thursday, and we met Monday, yesterday, and we talked about it. And we’re already approved bids to fix the front gate for the cars to come in and secure it, the complex. We’re putting in new lighting. We signing that bid, you know, I mean, LED lighting throughout the complex, and we’re putting in a whole new camera system. So all this is going to happen in the next 30 days, and then the next thing will be we will paint the exterior trim because all the trim on this place looks nasty. And so, you know, people will see that we’re starting to improve it. So you always start– and the reason I’m bringing this up is you always start with the exterior improvements, you know before you work on the interior so people really see that you’re starting to, you know, make things happen there. We’ve got new signage approved for all the buildings, for you know, the numbers on the buildings and the numbers on the units and the main sign in the front. So, you know, that’s how you do it. So let me ask you this, my friend. Eric, are you just going to stick with mobile home parks, or are you going to, you know, do some apartments as well?

Eric
Yeah, so, I mean, my actual number one goal is apartments.

Rod
Alright. Okay.

Eric
So, you know, when I joined your program last December, December 5th, as a matter of fact, my goal for 2022 was to close 100 units as far as apartments. But, you know, I knew that I had a skill set still for mobile home parks, and so I didn’t want to just kind of leave it behind, especially if it’s going to be able to generate some income. I want to utilize it still while I’m sourcing deals for apartments.

Rod
Sure. You’re going to triple the income. I mean, good lord, I mean, that’s what’s coming. I mean, that’s fantastic. That’s fantastic. Oh, by the way, guys, if you are interested in the Warrior program, you know, text the word “crush” to “72345” so we can help you crush it in this business. So again, you text “crush” to “72345” to apply and, you know, we look you over, you look us over and if it’s a fit, we work together. And, you know, I’m pretty blessed to say– Eric probably don’t even know this. Our Warriors are owned somewhere in the neighborhood that we know of about 100,000 units.

Eric
Wow.

Rod
So, I mean, it is crazy. You know, and I’ve only been teaching five years, so I’m very, very proud of that. Well, let me ask you this, buddy. You know, I like to ask this question. You know, in your real estate journey, did you have any like aha moments, any epiphanies where you’re like, okay, now I get it kind of a thing, and maybe you’ve alluded to them already, I think you may have, but just speak to that a little bit.

Eric
Yeah. So when I was going down that wholesaling journey, you know, I thought that was going to be the way for me to take care of my family and really achieve that financial security that I was looking for.

Rod
Right.

Eric
And along that path, I discovered it was just a job and when you’re doing that transactional kind of thing, you’re just creating work. And so I snapped out of it and I started listening to you and–

Rod
And it’s been all downhill since there.

Eric
Oh, no. Well, no, I soon realized that you know, I want to own assets and I was attracted to you because you really drove home that, hey, hold on to them. Don’t just get in, get out, hold onto these assets, and create a generation of wealth. And so that is the plan moving forward.

Rod
Love it. Now, I want to mention one thing about wholesaling, though, because I asked– and I need to put it out there in a Warrior group again. I put a post in a Warrior group probably about 18 months ago, and I said, how many of you have wholesaled the deal and made over 100 grand? And there were a dozen at that time that had and two of them made over a million.

Mark
Multifamily. To clarify.

Rod
Multifamily. Yes. I didn’t clarify that.

Mark
Yes.

Rod
Yeah, wholesale the multifamily deal made over 100 grand, and again, two made over a million. And I know there was just a post I just did in the Warrior training, and there was somebody that did 175,000, I think, wholesaling something in the group.

Mark
Storage unit. Yeah. Storage unit. I saw that.

Rod
Yeah. Storage unit, yeah. Again, you know, those are nice hits, but yes, it is. You’re only as good as the next deal, for sure, but you know, those numbers are a whole lot better than you know, 10, 15, 20 grand on a single-family. So, you know, I want to mention that. But yeah. Anyway–

Mark
What’s been your experience, Eric, as a Warrior? Why did you decide to do it rather than just keep doing things on your own?

Rod
Oh, good question.

Eric
Yeah, so I knew that as I started educating and preparing to go into multifamily, I knew that I was going to need a team. And the more I listened to you guys, the more I listened to Rod, I was really drawn to you guys because of the Warrior program. And so I knew that I needed to get there. And since joining– the deal that I was able to close, I wouldn’t have been able to close it had I not been in this program.

Rod
Nice.

Eric
And so two of the guys that we syndicated the deal with, they’re Warriors, and one signed on the note, and the other one brought the majority of the cash to close the deal. We needed somewhere close to 920 grand to close the deal, and one of the Warriors brought the majority of the cash.

Rod
Wow, that’s awesome. That’s awesome. By the way, did you turn in for a sword? Did you get a sword?

Eric
I did. Yes. I got it.

Rod
Alright. Awesome. By the way, guys, when you get your first deal as a Warrior, you get this awesome freaking sword in the mail. I mean, it’s the real deal. And then you become what we call a warrior of the sword. So that’s awesome. Good for you. So let me ask you this. You know, you have done a lot already, and again, I thought you were a lot younger than you are, but you’ve got grandkids. Wow. But, you know, if you could go back in time, you know, when you first got into real estate, you know and tell that age version of you, you know, is there anything you might do differently?

Eric
Yeah, I would have pursued syndication. So when I was narrowing it down as to what niche within real estate that I was going to go after, instead of selecting wholesaling, I would have went after syndicating commercial real estate. And so the biggest hang-up for me at that point in time was the lack of money, the lack of financial resources, and I just didn’t know about using other people’s money and connecting and the teamwork and, you know, you using your unique skill set like I brought the deal to the syndication, and that was my strength and that’s how I got into the deal, you know.

Rod
Yeah. And so you got a piece of a deal and you may not have any money in it. And I know that a lot of Warriors do it that way. So here’s the thing, guys. These deals take money, but it doesn’t have to be your own money. There’s so much money looking for a home, and you found it, you know, the bulk of it in the Warrior group, which is fantastic. But there’s you know, people that are getting killed in the stock market right now. Like I think it’s done the worst it’s done in decades. It’s happening right now. And so, you know, and we won’t talk about Crypto and the people getting killed there. So, you know, people want to invest. They want to get a good return, they want to get a conservative return. And that’s the one thing that this gives them. So, yeah, good. Good.

Mark
So for people listening that haven’t done any real estate, no wholesaling, multifamily, single-family, nothing. Eric, if you were to say pick one skill, what do you think should be that first skill that they should learn? Whether it is finding deals or finding money or underwriting, what do you think is the first thing that people that don’t have any experience should learn, in your opinion?

Rod
And let me add something to that, you know. Just add some words of wisdom that you would share with aspiring multifamily investors. Like he said, people that have not pulled the trigger yet. So take that any way you like. I wanted to supplement that question.

Eric
Yeah. So I would say sales. If you could get sales underneath your belt, you know, even if you come in as an agent, it gets you belly-to-belly with people. You get that interaction, and from there you could build around that. You could build the underwriting skill, you can build the networking skill, all those things. But the biggest challenge is actually getting out and talking with people, connecting with people. And once you get that underneath your belt, I mean, the sky is the limit because– yeah.

Rod
That is a great, great answer, brother. Great answer. And I will tell you, you know, if this is not your wheelhouse, you can develop this. Go out and get some sales books. Grant Cardone is good. Tom Hopkins, I had him on the show. Both of those guys have had on the show, multiple times. You know, Grant’s “Sell or Be Sold,” I think.

Mark
Bradley.

Rod
Huh?

Mark
Bradley. You’re, on his podcast, he says he has his own thing. He’s really good.

Rod
Yeah. So that is really great advice because you know, your ability to influence or sell whatever you want to coin it is probably the greatest skill you could have. So that’s a great answer, Eric. Awesome. Yeah, so, you know, learn sales. Any other words of wisdom that you would share with an aspiring multifamily investor?

Eric
So, words of wisdom that I would part with is connecting. I mean, you know, wherever you are within your journey, if you have resources, financial resources, 100 grand, 50 grand, 20 grand, if you don’t have any money, you’re going to have to get connected. You need to network like crazy. And the more you network, the more people that you come in encounter with, the better off you’re going to be within real estate because real estate is 100%, it’s a people business and it’s who you know.

Rod
And team business. Yeah.

Eric
Yeah. So you’re going to have to connect with people.

Rod
That’s really good advice as well, buddy. That’s really good advice. And, you know, I’ll tell you, we discovered this about three years ago, that our most successful Warriors are the ones that are the most connected inside the Warrior group. And so what we do is we do everything we can to connect Warriors with each other. You know, like, we’ve got a Warrior event coming up in Sarasota here in three weeks. So we’re just Warriors. 250 Warriors will be here, connecting and having breakfast, lunch, and dinner together. So we facilitate it through those things. And then we also do you know, breakouts after our Q&As every other week, so Warriors can connect randomly as well because it’s just such an important– and then, you know when we get a new Warrior, we’ll send them– all the Warriors that live around them or invest around them so they can connect locally and go break bread and have a meal with them. And, you know, those pictures of those meetings are posted almost weekly in the Warrior group. Almost every week, there are some Warriors meeting all over the country. So, yeah. So what your advice is really sound. And so, even if you’re not in our program, get out there, go to meetup groups, go to Real Estate Investor Club meetings. Get around people that want more out of life. Your peer group is super important right now. And, you know, get around people that will hold you to a higher standard, that you can connect with, that you can send deals to or, you know, pull money from or whatever. Your net worth is absolutely tied to your network. So that is great advice, brother. Well, listen, what motivates you, Eric? Where does the motivation come from, buddy? What makes you jump out of bed and go conquer this? Because I can tell you’re super motivated.

Eric
Yeah. So I’m definitely a man of faith. I’m a strong believer in God, but more or less is to take care of my family and also to reach out and help others. So I want to educate as many people as possible and help as many people as possible that may be in similar situations as I was with, you know, turbulence within the workplace or just looking for job stability or financial security. I want to help educate them, to let them know that there’s another path. And commercial real estate, it’ll be a great vehicle to get you there.

Rod
Love it. Love it. You know, it’s funny. We had my boot camp in Denver, and we had 850 people there, and there were a couple of hundred Warriors there, and we did a hall of fame. Like we picked ten Warriors out of our– you know, over a thousand that were really exemplary and great examples of what we’re doing. And I saw a pattern, and I’m tying into what you just said. You know, we did a little PowerPoint slide for each one of them, and every single one of them does something to make the world a better place. Charitable, training people, helping you know, building schools in India, raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for veterans suicide, for veterans, homelessness. I mean, it’s just astounding. Every single one of them has some sort of a charitable thing they’re doing to make to help other people. Well, listen, brother, I appreciate you coming on the show. You did a bang-up job, great answers to the questions. Great to see you again, and, you know, awesome job, and hopefully I’ll see you at one of the events real soon.

Eric
Yes, sir. No problem. Thanks for having me on.

Rod
Yeah. All right. Mark, I’ll see you later, buddy. Thanks, guys.

Mark
Alright. Thanks, guys.

Rod
Alright.

Outro
Rod, I know a lot of our listeners are wanting to take their multifamily investing business to the next level. Now, I know you’ve been hard at work helping our Warrior students do just that using our “ACT” methodology which is Awareness, Close, and Transform. Can you explain to the listeners how they can get our help?

Rod
You bet. Guys, we’ve been going non-stop for three years building an amazing community of like-minded people, and our coaching students which we call our Warriors have had extraordinary results. They’ve purchased thousands and thousands of units and last year we did over a thousand units with our students. And we’re looking to grow this group and take it to the next level. We’re looking for people who want to follow a proven framework that’s really step by step and then leverage our systems and network to raise equity, to find and close deals, and to build partnerships nationwide. Now, our Warrior community is finding success in any market cycle. So if you’re interested in finding out more about how you can become more of our incredible network and take advantage of the incredible opportunities that are coming very soon, apply to work with us at “MentorWithRod.com” or text the word “CRUSH” to “72345” and we’ll set up a call so you can check us out and we can check you out. Again, to apply, text “CRUSH” to “72345”.