Tommy Thornburgh, President of Prime Corporate Services, attributes the company’s success over the past decade to his dedicated team, which has helped over 100,000 entrepreneurs structure their businesses effectively. As the driving force behind webinars and events, he leads 50 Corporate Advisors who assist over 400 new entrepreneurs daily. Tommy’s journey began in door-to-door pest control sales, where he learned about the challenges of taxes, and later he worked at Clearlink before joining PCS. He fosters a close-knit family culture at the company, and in his free time, he enjoys golfing and spending time with his wife and young daughter.

Here’s some of the topics we covered:

  • Why Tommy Empowers Investors and Entrepreneurs
  • Proactive vs. Reactive Tax Planning
  • Mind-Blowing Strategies to Slash Your Taxes
  • Supercharge Your Savings with Health Savings Accounts!
  • Ninja Tax Hacks for Parents
  • Getting the Most Out of Your Expenses
  • The 3 Game-Changing Questions to Ask Before Launching Your Business

To find out more about partnering or investing in a multifamily deal: Text Partner to 72345 or email Partner@RodKhleif.com

Full Transcript Below

00;00;00;01 – 00;00;23;11
Rod
Proactive versus reactive is number one. Tax planning happens throughout the course of the year. If you’ve generated income through W2, through 1099, through real estate, that’s your opportunity to be able to reinvest to better your cash flow positioning for the future. If you follow the process, if you proactively plan and you decide where you want your dollars to go to better your future, your kids future, your grandkids future.

00;00;23;12 – 00;00;41;15
Rod
That’s what really creates legacy long term. A lot of people think that trust and wills are only for very wealthy, very rich individuals. That’s not the case. If you own assets, a bank account or retirement account, it’s worth it to protect it.

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Tommy
Welcome to another edition of Lifetime Cash Flow through real Estate Investing. I’m Rod Cleef, and I am thrilled that you’re here and you’re going to get tremendous value today from the gentleman I’m interviewing. His name is Tommy Thornberg, and he’s the president of Prime Corporate Services. And to give you an idea of what they do, well, they’ve started in 2012 and they have started 150,000 businesses.

00;01;03;02 – 00;01;26;10
Tommy
A corporate lead like LLC, for example, they’ve done tens of thousands of tax returns. So they provide services to people like my, my warriors, my clients. And so, we’re going to talk about a lot of strategies. In fact, I just had him speak at our warrior event, and add value to my warriors. This last weekend, we had we had a warrior only event with a few hundred of my coaching students, my warriors, and, he added a ton of value.

00;01;26;10 – 00;01;34;01
Tommy
There was a line of people waiting to talk to him after he was done. So you definitely want to, plug in and listen to this, this episode. Welcome to the show, brother.

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Rod
Thank you. Thank you for having me. Amazing event. That was fun.

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Tommy
Oh, thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah, it was fun. And, you know, he’s got the tagline. It’s not what you make, it’s what you keep. And, that we’ll help you make it. He can help you keep it. So, Yeah. So maybe give us a little more background. I didn’t, you know, probably butchered the bio there, but, if you want to just tell us a little bit more about what you do, and then we’ll drill down on, some of these things.

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Tommy
So.

00;01;59;00 – 00;02;25;27
Rod
Yeah, I appreciate it. It was it was awesome. There’s when we first started private corporate, we just noticed there’s a hole in this market. And the reason for it is when you go, you’ve experienced this, I’m sure you go talk to an attorney and you get it depends or it’s really heavy on the asset protection side. And when you go ask the same questions to your accountant or your CPA, a lot of times it’s the path of least resistance to file that tax return.

00;02;25;27 – 00;02;50;04
Rod
So that’s our goal is we’ve got a full team of CPAs and accountants. We’ve got a full team of attorneys, complicated questions. Let’s force them to find the common ground of what is best for you as an entrepreneur. Because a lot of times it’s not the same answer. And and that’s our goal between entity structure tax savings, we’re able to find thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars in tax savings.

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Rod
For a lot of our clients that are entrepreneurs.

00;02;52;04 – 00;03;08;26
Tommy
Now, we’re going to drill down on that for sure. Now, on the entity structuring side, I mean, guys, you know, this business really is driven by LLCs, limited liability companies. You know, you’re not going to buy a property and put it in your own name. You’re not going to put it in a corporation. You’re not going to put it in a partnership anymore.

00;03;08;26 – 00;03;24;16
Tommy
It’s going to go into an LLC and you need help forming those LLC. And you know, if you come to one of my boot camps, you know, one of the pieces I do is on entity structuring and I’ll show a chart where you’ve got the property being owned by an LLC. You’ve got, you know, a branding company, LLC.

00;03;24;16 – 00;03;45;18
Tommy
In some cases, you’ve got a holding company, LLC. So there’s whole structure of different LLCs that are needed in this business. And, you know, I know you guys also help with business credit development, where you can form an LLC and get some business credit, which is really more in a single family space, but still, it’s a, it’s a, it’s a real value add, you know, component of what you do.

00;03;45;20 – 00;04;08;11
Tommy
So you can form the LLC. But let’s talk about the taxation. I think that’s really, I know that that piqued a lot of people’s interest at my warrior event. And, you know, most CPAs, as we all know, we drive using the rearview mirror. I mean, they’re basically looking at the past. They’re not proactively planning or doing anything like that.

00;04;08;11 – 00;04;11;27
Tommy
Do you want to speak to what you offer in that regard?

00;04;11;29 – 00;04;43;10
Rod
Proactive versus reactive is number one. You hit it right on the nail. Tax planning happens throughout the course of the year, and if clients can train themselves to make it a part of their business that January, February, March, quarter one going into October, November, December, that’s business shopping spring season, right. And if you’ve generated income through W-2 through 1099 through real estate, that’s your opportunity to be able to reinvest to better your cash flow positioning for the future.

00;04;43;12 – 00;05;03;29
Rod
And that’s a lot of what we offer. Whether you want monthly calls, quarterly calls, one annual call, whether it be bookkeeping, whether it be organization, whether it be trackers, a lot of it’s just muscle memory, similar to a lot of the Warriors that I was able to meet. A lot of them said the same thing follow what rod has to say and the stuff works.

00;05;03;29 – 00;05;25;04
Rod
There’s no no secret behind that. And it’s the same thing for us from a tax standpoint. We’ve seen the mistakes, we’ve seen the wins. If you follow the process, if you proactively plan and you decide where you want your dollars to go to better your your future, your kids future, your grandkids future, that’s what really creates legacy long term.

00;05;25;07 – 00;05;43;19
Tommy
Well, let’s talk about some I mean, you brought up some of the different strategies that people can use to minimize their taxes. And some you guys may have heard of, some you may not. I mean, of course in our world we’ve got cost segregation and bonus depreciation and stuff like that. But talk about some of the stuff you talked about at the warrior event this last weekend.

00;05;43;26 – 00;06;08;00
Rod
Yeah, three strategies that I shared with everyone. The first one are health savings accounts. Health savings accounts are amazing. It’s one of the only deductions that you get triple the benefit on. And you can put if you’re single 4000 and some change if you’re married 8000 and some change. That number changes every year. But you put the money in, it’s deductible.

00;06;08;03 – 00;06;22;13
Rod
You take the money out, it’s deductible. You pay medical expenses with it, it’s deductible. Wow. So all it works as is a savings account. Very, very simple, easy way to save thousands of dollars in taxes.

00;06;22;15 – 00;06;31;22
Tommy
I actually should be doing that myself. Yes. Because, you know, you’ve got, medical expenses all the time. I’m old is dirt, so I’m. Of course, I’ve got stuff going on. So what else?

00;06;31;25 – 00;06;48;24
Rod
The second strategy that I shared was paying your children. This is a lot of the line afterwards that you were talking about. This is a lot of what that was. I’ve got two little girls, three year old and a one year old, and, both of them will make $14,500 this year.

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Tommy
Really?

00;06;49;21 – 00;06;58;20
Rod
As long as it stays under the standard deduction, you’re tracking what it’s for. They’re doing legitimate business, and legitimate work can be cleaning. What the heck.

00;06;58;20 – 00;06;59;21
Tommy
Does a three year old doing?

00;06;59;24 – 00;07;01;00
Rod
Well, their models.

00;07;01;01 – 00;07;01;28
Tommy
All their models.

00;07;02;02 – 00;07;04;01
Rod
They look like their mother.

00;07;04;03 – 00;07;04;18
Tommy
Thank God.

00;07;04;18 – 00;07;08;13
Rod
Right. They wouldn’t have been models. They looked like me.

00;07;08;15 – 00;07;10;08
Tommy
So wow. Their models okay.

00;07;10;13 – 00;07;32;01
Rod
But I get the business right off. They don’t make enough to pay taxes. And we’ve got a lot of clients that they’ll teach financial literacy to their children and have them pay their expenses. They’ll invest it for them. There’s a lot of things you can do, but you got to track it. You got to make the transfer where we want to make it as legitimate as possible.

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Tommy
So you open a bank account in their name? Yep. Joint account obviously with you on there as well. Yup. But it’s in their name. You you deposit less than what is it, 14.

00;07;41;20 – 00;07;42;20
Rod
14, six.

00;07;42;20 – 00;07;52;21
Tommy
This year. 14,600 in there you document what it’s for in some fashion. Some sort of a ledger, I suppose. Yep. And then, you give it to your CPA and say this is deductible.

00;07;52;23 – 00;07;55;00
Rod
We’ve got, we’ve got really cool trackers.

00;07;55;04 – 00;07;59;03
Tommy
You do it. I guess you would do the tax piece at that point. Yep. Right. Okay.

00;07;59;03 – 00;08;05;09
Rod
And I’m going to I’m going to get the trackers to get to all of your warriors. I, I had a blast. It was a it was a great event.

00;08;05;09 – 00;08;21;27
Tommy
By the way, if you’re driving write this down. Warrior peaks.com. That’s how you can, get access to this information, with Tommy’s and Tommy and his company and set up a call. Really? That’s that’s that’s how they set up a call, isn’t it? Just to just to talk about what you guys have, which I’m 100% behind here, so.

00;08;22;01 – 00;08;35;03
Tommy
Okay, so you got you’ve got the health savings plan, which I’m going to look into myself and. God, I can’t believe I’ve never done that. You know, my kids, I don’t think I can use my kids anymore. They’re too old. But, I sure could have, What else?

00;08;35;06 – 00;08;58;10
Rod
Another one that is very popular is the Augusta rule. And, the Augusta rule. It was it started because a gentleman in Augusta, Georgia, got audited for renting out his house during the Masters golf tournament. And what this rule says, it’s section two Ada. And what it says is you can rent your house out up to 14 days a year, tax free.

00;08;58;13 – 00;09;21;24
Rod
Okay. So how I implement this strategy is on the fifth of every month, my business signs a rental agreement to rent out my house. I go over minutes, meetings, bookkeeping, monthly goals, quarterly goals, and have a set amount where the business gets the write off. But I didn’t rent it out enough days to take the deduction or to claim the income.

00;09;22;01 – 00;09;23;25
Rod
Income on the other side.

00;09;23;27 – 00;09;27;15
Tommy
So what? What what are those amounts? I mean, give me an idea how that works.

00;09;27;15 – 00;09;51;08
Rod
There’s a really cool website. It’s called pure Space.com here. Space. Pure space PR space.com okay. And what I love about this website is it’ll tell you how much you could write in your property for on an hourly basis. So if you’re not renting it for a whole day once again let’s do it legit. But you could also get comps through Airbnb or Vrbo.

00;09;51;12 – 00;10;01;07
Tommy
Okay. So you justify the amount based on pure space or some other, you know website that, that rents houses by the day or the hour or whatever.

00;10;01;12 – 00;10;02;17
Rod
Has to be reasonable.

00;10;02;24 – 00;10;03;01
Tommy
Yeah.

00;10;03;04 – 00;10;17;20
Rod
But once again our average client that facilitates that into their business, it’s an average $89,000 of savings for them by making sure that they have the proper documents on an annual basis, some clients much more, but the average is 8 to 9.

00;10;17;23 – 00;10;24;13
Tommy
That 8 to 9000 in tax savings. Correct. Okay. And and you do it one day a month. You said.

00;10;24;16 – 00;10;32;18
Rod
Usually. Yeah. That way it spreads it out and it’s actual planning. And so yeah, as long as it stays under 14, if not you got to claim the income.

00;10;32;18 – 00;10;50;17
Tommy
So it’s under 14 K okay. Very interesting. So those are just some examples of the tax savings and tax strategies that that you can help employ help someone implement. Right. Yep. So you’ve got you’ve got attorneys that do the entity structure. You’ve got CPAs that deal with the taxation. What are some other things you do.

00;10;50;19 – 00;10;58;01
Rod
The other big area that we focused on this year has been estate planning. And boy, the dreaded boy.

00;10;58;03 – 00;10;59;23
Tommy
That’s the new LLC requirement.

00;10;59;23 – 00;11;14;13
Rod
Beneficial ownership information. The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, government agency. Totally separate. Doesn’t affect your privacy. I don’t know if you saw this, but Alabama is, fighting it to deem it unconstitutional.

00;11;14;13 – 00;11;19;01
Tommy
Stupid. It really. I mean, it’s just bureaucracy at its finest. Good lord.

00;11;19;01 – 00;11;34;07
Rod
How they’re going to implement it. I have no idea. There’s 40 million entities. And from last I saw, there’s not even 10 million that have completed it. Wow. But, I mean, they’re threatening $500 a day fines, right up to two years in jail.

00;11;34;09 – 00;11;39;23
Tommy
So fat chance. But but I mean, still, it’s ridiculous. And you guys help, help people get that done.

00;11;39;23 – 00;11;59;28
Rod
We put together a really awesome portal where you can put all of your entities into it. You fill out the information you need, you upload your driver’s license, your passport, and it’ll send you if your driver’s license is going to expire, it’ll email you and say, rod, hurry up and update your your, driver’s license, okay? So that you can stay compliant.

00;11;59;28 – 00;12;02;14
Tommy
So is it a yearly thing?

00;12;02;16 – 00;12;04;15
Rod
It’s just whenever something changes.

00;12;04;15 – 00;12;06;01
Tommy
I say, okay, so.

00;12;06;01 – 00;12;19;07
Rod
The, the boy, it’s it’s part of it, right? It’s just like setting up a business entity. We’re just going to include it. We’re going to help everyone make sure that it’s taken care of. Check it off the list. Focus on generating income. Right. Right, right.

00;12;19;09 – 00;12;30;12
Tommy
So what else you do? The entity structure in the B a y piece associated with that. You do the tax preparation and tax planning, which is huge because most CPAs don’t. What else do you do?

00;12;30;14 – 00;12;34;03
Rod
The other two are estate planning and business credit.

00;12;34;03 – 00;12;40;26
Tommy
Oh that’s right we talked about business credit where you can form an LLC and you help people, basically get lines of credit for their LLC.

00;12;40;28 – 00;12;47;05
Rod
Yeah, we’re we’re currently getting over $4 million a month in business, credit and corporate funding. And I know that.

00;12;47;08 – 00;12;51;23
Tommy
For the helping people get that much a month from you know, different people are getting that kind of.

00;12;51;26 – 00;13;13;15
Rod
Combined clients. And like you said, for the multifamily, not not the most important thing in the world, but if you have other businesses or single family being able to use business credit for just business related expenses, right? To keep yourself organized and to build up larger lines of credit, great benefit. It takes time. It’s not an overnight solution, right?

00;13;13;15 – 00;13;15;00
Rod
But it’s a good option long term.

00;13;15;00 – 00;13;37;01
Tommy
Great. And you help facilitate that basic. Yes. We’re going to take a break from this great episode for word from our sponsor, which is the multifamily bootcamp. Now financial success is what you’re after. We are rapidly approaching one of the greatest opportunities I think we’re going to see in our lifetime is to capitalize financially. So if you know real estate is the vehicle for you, you’re crazy not to spend a couple days with me and one of my bootcamps.

00;13;37;01 – 00;13;52;11
Tommy
I’ve always got one right around the corner. Thousands and thousands of people have taken action on their journeys to creating generational cash flow for themselves and their families. From attending my events, I don’t sell anything at this event, so it’s basically 16 to 18 hours of training with nothing being sold. Kind of a no brainer if you’re serious about this.

00;13;52;11 – 00;14;14;21
Tommy
To check it out, text the word links to 72345 or go to Rod’s links.com again. Text links to 72345 or go to Rod’s links.com. I promise you’ll be glad you came. Let’s get back to it. And then estate planning. So talk about that for a minute because that’s important. So many people forget about this. I mean, look at people like Prince died without a will crazy story.

00;14;14;21 – 00;14;24;23
Tommy
I mean, and and I mean millions and millions of dollars and, I mean, the government took how much of his, his money. I mean, like, half, I think, or something. Or maybe I.

00;14;24;23 – 00;14;46;20
Rod
Think that when he passed, his estate was showing that it was worth 100 or 200 mil. Okay. And it took 6 to 8 years or something like, don’t quote me on the time. It was a long time over five years and it was worth like 600 million. So it actually worked out in this scenario. But I think that all the money ended up actually going to it was either his mother, his father, that he was they were.

00;14;46;20 – 00;14;48;02
Tommy
Able to make it work okay.

00;14;48;02 – 00;15;10;09
Rod
But they didn’t want to. He he wouldn’t have wanted it to go there from what I understand. So. Oh, wow. Another common misconception is that you hear stories like that and a lot of people think that trust and wills are only for very wealthy, very rich individuals, right. That’s that’s not the case. If you own assets, a bank account, a retirement account, a piece of.

00;15;10;09 – 00;15;11;10
Tommy
Real estate, anything.

00;15;11;15 – 00;15;19;03
Rod
Yeah, it’s worth it to protect it and to make sure that that asset and those dollars are going to who you truly.

00;15;19;03 – 00;15;20;23
Tommy
Want and not to estate tax.

00;15;20;23 – 00;15;23;06
Rod
Not to estate tax, not to probate. Right.

00;15;23;06 – 00;15;25;28
Tommy
There’s ways to minimize or eliminate that just by.

00;15;25;28 – 00;15;35;28
Rod
Structure, just the the emotional damage that happens amongst families. And what already is a very stressful situation, right, is very avoidable by having these pieces.

00;15;35;28 – 00;15;53;03
Tommy
And so you do living wills, trusts, power of attorneys, all these things that that need to be done. I remember I did it with my ex, and need updated. In fact, you just reminded me I need to update that stuff now that we’ve we’re no longer together. But, you know, all that stuff needs to be taken care of in case something happens.

00;15;53;03 – 00;15;56;29
Tommy
So the people that you want to get your stuff actually get it. Yeah.

00;15;57;00 – 00;16;14;28
Rod
Right. I, I hate to toot my own horn on this one, but I’m going to. Okay. We, we we made a really, really awesome portal over the last year. And, boy, as part of the reason that we did this, and as we’re building it, we’re like, our clients would love the estate planning to be in a portal as well.

00;16;15;00 – 00;16;29;08
Rod
So a lot of what we’re doing now is you can just log into a portal and you go buy another multifamily property, you set up another business like you’re constantly doing right. Once a year you can log in to this portal update. Life changes and everything’s complete.

00;16;29;08 – 00;16;44;01
Tommy
I do that on a word document. Literally. I do what you just described on a word document, but I love the fact that you’ve organized that so you know it. Basically, heading this is terrible in case I die as the heading of my word document, so that you know that people can find what they need to find if something happens to me.

00;16;44;03 – 00;17;01;28
Tommy
But, oh, I love that you’ve got that organized. So, guys, again, if you’re interested in checking this out, there’s no cost to do this. And to set up a call with this team go to Warrior Picks. Com and we’ll get you hooked up with that. So I know that on the LLC front you’re not doing syndication. Syndication is a very complex LLC structures.

00;17;01;28 – 00;17;25;07
Tommy
And you know I’ve got an SEC tourney that’s awesome for that Merrill Callis or he speaks at my boot camps. And you need an SEC attorney for that because the complexity I mean, if you guys saw one of these organizational charts, the LLCs will make your eyes cross. But the thing you can help with is when somebody first gets started setting up their branding it entity, you know, to, to to hang their shingle, as it were, you know, to, to, to legitimize themselves, you know.

00;17;25;13 – 00;17;41;06
Tommy
And I will tell you let me give you a little feedback on that. So and and I teach this in my book as well. Let me just tell you right now. So when you’re setting up one of these branding entities, you know, like mine is CRM equity capital.com commercial real estate equity capital.com. And our domain is CRM capital.com.

00;17;41;06 – 00;18;16;02
Tommy
So when you set up one of these entities and he’ll help you do that, there’s still some things you need to check. Like you need to make sure it’s available to Secretary of state. Right. Yep. You should check the name with uspto.gov and make sure there’s no, trademark or anything on it. And then you should see if there’s a domain that, that ties into it in any way that, that even if it’s not exact, but, but you know, that’ll, that’ll that you’ll be able to use and then and then, you know, and most of these entity names end in investments, real estate, you know, capital l you know,

00;18;16;05 – 00;18;16;27
Tommy
things like that.

00;18;16;28 – 00;18;18;21
Rod
Inclusion solutions. Exactly.

00;18;18;21 – 00;18;32;21
Tommy
Yeah, exactly. And so, so, you know, you set up your name and you do all these other things, and, you know, Tommy’s, Tommy’s team can help you get that LLC set up, and you’re off to the races. And then if you want to do business credit on it, we can he can discuss that with you and so on and so forth.

00;18;32;21 – 00;18;39;04
Tommy
But, but yeah, on the syndication side, that’s done by an SEC attorney. Just to clear that up, I want to make sure there’s clarity on that.

00;18;39;04 – 00;19;03;11
Rod
I’m happy you did. After Merrill spoke right before me. Right. I was chasing him out of the room, getting his information to talk to him and go through everything. Right. Because it is two completely different worlds, right? It’s so important to make sure that you have the SEC component on that side, right? With the entity side. To simplify this for everyone, the three things that I tell people to really look at whenever you set up a new business.

00;19;03;13 – 00;19;11;00
Rod
Number one, privacy and protection. How much privacy do you what do you want? Your name, your address, those things listed on state, whether you.

00;19;11;00 – 00;19;12;23
Tommy
Go to Delaware, Wyoming or Nevada.

00;19;12;28 – 00;19;24;18
Rod
Or I. Also, you can even use registered agents, virtual addresses to make sure your your address isn’t on there. Yeah, but yeah, Wyoming’s my favorite. Yeah. Simple. Easy. A little bit less expensive than Delaware.

00;19;24;18 – 00;19;36;09
Tommy
And, you know, Delaware is more money. Some banks were required. Delaware, I believe in or out on the SCC front or on the lending front, but, those are those are two to the best, for sure. Delaware and Wyoming. I said Nevada is probably a close third.

00;19;36;10 – 00;19;37;15
Rod
Yeah, I would agree with that.

00;19;37;15 – 00;19;37;19
Tommy
Yeah.

00;19;37;19 – 00;19;59;27
Rod
So, and then the second thing is tax benefits, profit or loss. And I think this is important, those of you that create active income, make sure you identify the type of income. Is it active or is it passive because a lot of times, one of the first things that we try and review with tax clients, and there will be people that come to us with just our LLCs generating active income.

00;19;59;27 – 00;20;11;10
Rod
Right. And if we change to that’s corp election, it allows them to save, pay themselves a salary or a distribution and then avoid half that self-employment tax.

00;20;11;17 – 00;20;31;26
Tommy
So to recap, you guys do entity structuring LLCs. You absolutely do. You do tens of thousands of taxes a year. You do estate planning so that, you know, when you pass the right people get what you want and you don’t pay a bunch of estate tax and you do business credit. Now, if someone calls you guys, what can they expect on a phone call?

00;20;31;29 – 00;20;50;29
Rod
Yeah, that that call is free. That call is for you. That calls for anyone that’s listening. Let’s first make sure that we can actually bring value right. And what we’ll do is we’ll break down 45 minutes to an hour free call. What do you already have in place? What are your goals? What are your dreams over the next year?

00;20;51;00 – 00;21;07;27
Rod
Five years, ten years? Let’s first of all make sure the entities are all set up properly, right. They’re talking to each other. And then we can look at what the other things are and make sure that you have the estate planning, you have the credit if it’s something that benefits you. We’re filing the taxes the right way.

00;21;08;00 – 00;21;14;05
Rod
But it really is just an overall discovery call to make sure that there’s no holes, no gaps in what you’re what you’re doing.

00;21;14;10 – 00;21;33;17
Tommy
Yeah. Simple enough. It’s very similar to if somebody, you know, wants to apply to our warrior program. Just a it’s a, it’s a discovery call just like that. So that sounds good. Okay. Well, listen, brother, I really appreciate you coming on the show and adding some value. And I think, you know, your services are definitely a need, which is why I had you talk to my warriors, which I do not let many people talk to my warriors.

00;21;33;17 – 00;21;39;16
Tommy
But, you know, that was, it was very educational. And I’m like, dude, let’s get you on the podcast when I heard it. So here we.

00;21;39;16 – 00;21;50;24
Rod
Are. I appreciate it. I, I, I will say this as well. That’s that’s a high level group. I really, really enjoyed it. Yeah. Not only high level from a business sense, but just good people.

00;21;50;26 – 00;22;05;27
Tommy
It’s an extraordinary group, and I hear that from anybody that gets in front of them that they don’t see groups like that, you know, that that engage that, that excited, that motivated, that supportive. They help each other. It’s extraordinary. But, Well, thanks, brother. I appreciate you coming on.

00;22;06;00 – 00;22;06;29
Rod
Yeah. Thanks for having me.