Rob and Tara Shedden are Multifamily Real Estate Entrepreneurs that have broken free from the Rat Race by purchasing and renovating small multifamily properties. Purchasing their first 4-unit building in December 2018, they installed reasonable upgrades and established efficient management processes and have increased gross rents by an average 70% from purchase to stabilization on all acquisitions. They joined Rod Khleif’s Lifetime Cashflow Academy in March 2020 and closed on their first 6-unit deal with the help of two of Rod’s “Warriors” that same year.

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  • Making The Work Relationship Work Along With The Marriage
  • How To Get On The Same Page As Your Spouse In Multifamily
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Intro
Hi. My name is Rod Khleif, and I’m the host of “The Lifetime Cash Flow Through Real Estate Investing” podcast. And every week, I interview Multifamily Rock Stars and we talk about how they built incredible wealth for themselves and their families through multifamily properties. So hit the “Like” and “Subscribe” buttons to get notified every Monday when a new episode comes out. Let’s get to it.

Rod
Welcome back to Multifamily Rock Stars. So, as you guys know, this is where we interview people that are just flat-out crushing it in the business. And this is a super special episode because we’ve got a husband and wife team, and, you know, we basically show you guys the inside scoop into how multifamily investors are creating massive success not just in their businesses, but in their lives. As always, I’ve got my co-host, who is the director of our Massive Action Team for our Warrior group, Mark Nagy on the call. Mark, what’s happening, brother?

Mark
Not much. I can’t imagine, though, that anything has been as exciting here as you go through a hurricane recently, last week.

Rod
Listen, if you saw what we went through, it was kind of crazy. You know, my house is really solid, and I stayed. Luckily, Tiffy was out of town. She’s actually in Europe now. But I’ve got a video of me opening a window and the wind blast being so hard that I jumped back a couple of feet because it was that impact.

Mark
Wow.

Rod
We had this giant tree that fell over on our street, so we couldn’t go down our street. And on its side, this tree was like 40ft high. I mean, it’s just crazy, crazy, crazy. But, luckily, we didn’t get hurt. It was real sad south of us, so, man. I mean, really ugly. But anyway, let’s get into the awesome guests we have today. We’ve got Warriors, Rob and Tara Shedden. Now, I think you guys joined in 2020, is that right?

Rob
Yeah, March of 2020.

Rod
March 2020.

Rob
Yup.

Rod
And you’ve developed a portfolio of 24 units and five buildings since then, and you’ve basically got enough revenue from that to retire from– Rob for you to retire from a Fortune 100 company, six-figure salary there as construction project management, and then Tara, you were able to leave, you know, OBGYN ultrasound technician positions, which is fantastic because I know you guys have three kids.

Tara
Right.

Rod
So, you know, you have the ability to work from home and have time freedom. But welcome to the show, guys.

Rob
Thanks. Great to be here. We’re glad we joined the Warrior program.

Tara
Thanks. Great to be here.

Rod
Yeah, for sure. So, talk a little bit– you know, I kind of summarized a little bit your background, but talk about why real estate? You know, you guys both had pretty impressive careers. You know, give us a little background. Bring us from, you know, when you started thinking about real estate and even maybe a little before then to current.

Rob
Well, I guess I can open with that one. So, we had a family wedding down in Mexico Beach, Florida. Another town in Florida that was devastated by the hurricane, but on the way down to the wedding, we had three kids in our little SUV and Tara wanted a brand new Toyota Sequoia. And I’m like, I’m thinking, there’s no way we can afford a car payment. These kids are growing bigger every year, eating more food, and their clothes are getting more expensive. So, I realized I had to make a change. Working for my job at UPS and getting that 2% raise every year for till I retired was no longer going to work for us. So, we got into BiggerPockets.com and decided to try to flip a house. Decided that was a little too risky. And we kind of settled on buy and hold, you know, buying rentals. And so I read “Rich Dad Poor Dad”. And it was July of 2018. And by December of 2018, we closed on our first four-family property. And then from there, it’s been about 40 months since we were able to buy these properties, renovate them, and then increase the rent. And 40 months to break free of the W-2.

Rod
Yeah. No, that’s impressive. That’s impressive. And, you know, I know from reading your bio, it looks like you bought 16 of those since you joined our program, which is awesome.

Rob
Yeah.

Rod
Were you involved with any other Warriors in that process?

Rob
Yes, we were. So right before we joined the Warrior program, Tara and I had a six-unit property, under contract. We were thrilled. And then the pandemic hit, so we freaked out. We let the property go, and we had amassed all this capital. And we came across Johnny Antenna, one of your guys that were talking about the Warrior program, and he told us all the benefits, and we decided to take a chance. And I stopped living in fear, we dove in, enjoying the program with the help of two more Warriors. Six months later, we got the same property back under contract for $50,000 cheaper.

Rod
Nice.

Rod
We brought that full cycle in December of last year, so I can get into that later. But, we had two Warriors invest in us, and they made a handsome return, and now we own that asset outright. So it was a great story.

Tara
And, it was, what, 14 months?

Rob
14 months, yeah.

Tara
That we were able to return all of their capital and then–

Rob
And a 30% return.

Tara
Yeah.

Rod
All right, fantastic. Well, so, Toyota is the reason you guys got into real estate then, is what I’m hearing.

Rob
Basically. And now, I’m talking about manifesting Rod, there is a Toyota Sequoia parked there, in our driveway right now.

Rod
No kidding.

Rob
Watch that car.

Rod
Look at that. Yes. Those of you listening, if you don’t know, you know, one of the first– I mean, how do you get anything if you don’t know what it is? So one of the first things we do at our boot camps is get very clear on you know, what it is you want and why you want it. And I know I don’t know when this episode will air, but we’ve got a boot camp coming up, literally next weekend, October 15 and 16th, a virtual one. And, you know, if this airs before– actually, I think it is airing Monday.

Mark
It should be.

Rod
Or Friday. So, you know, if you haven’t booked that, get there. But, you know, that’s the first thing we do is goal setting. Because, again, how do you get anything if you don’t know what it is? So you got really clear. You told him what you wanted, and, you know, it’s our job to make that happen, is man. And we made it happen. It sounds like you guys did it together.

Rob
Absolutely.

Rod
And I’d actually like to talk about that for a minute before we get too deep into the real estate. So, you know, some people can’t work together. You know, I think Tiffy and I, we work together fairly well, but, you know, we kind of have our own roles. But, you know, some people, you know, husband and wife, you know, end up killing each other if they try to work together. So how do you guys make it work? Talk about how you actually make that dynamic work and still keep– you know, and still have you know, the home life and, you know, the love and all that.

Tara
Well, I mean, we have our own strengths and we each, you know, make sure that we’re working to our strengths. So, one of my superpowers is my ADHD. And it allows me to just dive in and, you know, research whatever it is that I’m interested in.

Rob
Laser-focused.

Tara
Yeah. Laser focused. And so, you know, searching properties. That’s one of the things I love to do.

Rob
Read [inaudible], you’re fantastic at that.

Tara
Yeah. And then also, you know, I originally went to school for interior design before I did my ultrasound career. And so just seeing the potential in, you know, everything. The original building we bought was, you know, just the plain Jane 1990s, looks like every other apartment, and I saw potential in it because it had you know, an attached car garage, in-unit laundry. It was a big space. Two beds, two baths, vaulted ceilings upstairs, and I’m like, we could just put some, you know, work into this and it would be beautiful. We could charge you know, so much more in rent and get great tenants in there. And the first couple of people that you know, we talked to about they said we were crazy. And that first apartment, they said, you won’t get over 800. And I wanted to get 1000. And we had over 100 applications for that first apartment for $1,000 and now, that’s–

Rod
Well, that’s because you already got a $40,000, $50,000 Toyota. So you know what you want, you go out and you get it. Right?

Rob
And so that she handles the tenant communications, interior design, that sort of thing. I handle the underwriting and finances and work with contractors. You know, she says, I want to look like this and I figure out the dollars and cents and the labor to get there. And then we meet in the middle and we lease these things up for a lot of money. So, it’s fantastic.

Rod
Nice.

Tara
By the way, for those apartments, we are getting 1,350 now.

Rod
Nice.

Tara
Yeah.

Mark
Dang. Only a few years later.

Tara
Right.

Mark
What advice do you think you guys would give to maybe a listener who isn’t in your guy’s shoes, right? Who, maybe, it’s a husband or a wife and maybe their other spouse. They’re not as interested in real estate, but they want them to be supportive. What advice would you give to that person to help their spouse maybe get supportive and get on the same page so that they could be successful?

Rod
Oh, good question.

Tara
So really, just, I think understanding what it’s all about, you know. If you understand it, then how can it not be exciting? I don’t know. I left your boot camp, by the way, in Denver, just like, ready to take on the world.

Rob
Yeah.

Tara
It’s so exciting for me. And I know every female isn’t excited about it. Every male isn’t excited about it. You know, but a lot of the questions we got at the boot camp were, how did you get your wife excited? Well, I just was excited. But, you know, really just understanding how it works, I think.

Rod
Yeah. And that could be done through explanation, right? That could be done through communication. I think the key there is communication. Would you agree with me, guys?

Tara
Yeah.

Rob
Not too much communication. If your spouse isn’t on board, if you’re talking about real estate when you wake up, at lunch, or when you go to bed, they may get overwhelmed. They’ll get overwhelmed. So it’s important to pick a few topics to share. But really, I think you want to share what’s the goal here. What are we trying to get, you know?

Rod
Yeah.

Rob
You share your why, and your vision of what your life would be like with your spouse. If we can execute this multifamily plan, here’s where we could be. How does that sound? You know, help me out. Let’s do it together. I think that might be a good–

Rod
Oh, that’s good, that’s good. That’s good feedback. So let me stay on this topic a little bit, at least to the dynamic between you guys.

Tara
Right.

Rod
You’ve got three kids, young kids. So how do you manage– because you know how big a deal that is for me and my students. You know, I talk about the greatest regret in my life coming home to my kids and not being there mentally, being distracted. I’m sure you heard me talk about that before. And so how do you make sure that that doesn’t happen with your children? How do you manage your time and separate work from the more important than your kids?

Tara
I wouldn’t say we always do accomplish that. You know, we always try.

Rod
Right.

Tara
But, you know, this morning we got a call and Rob had to meet somebody for a delivery at one of the apartments. So, you know, boom, okay, I’m going to take on morning time routine versus, you know, we normally split that. So splitting up, you know, scheduling out our week, splitting up the times, who’s picking up who, who’s going to be there to get, you know, that kid off the bus versus this kid. And then just you know, we make sure every night that we sit down as a family, no phones, you know, and we eat dinner together, you know. And really, we’re lucky that now that the kids are back in school, it was hard during the pandemic, but that, we’re focused on them when they’re here and we try and get our stuff done when they’re you know, away at school.

Rob
I was going to add that you got about six hours during the day. Like right now, it’s nice and quiet because they’re all at three different schools. So trying to schedule the bulk of the calls and the bulk of the work in that six-hour window, allows me especially to be more present on nights and weekends. Although our kids– they do go to the apartments, they have seen our tenants. They understand what we’re telling them, what we’re doing, so they know they have options. And it’s not just, I’ve got to go to school and get a good job and work my tail off till I retire. There are other ways to find happiness and make a living. And obviously, we’re excited to get them into real estate. We’ll see what happens. I’ll keep you posted.

Rod
Yeah, they do that, you lead by example there. I mean, they see that. You know, that’s awesome. That’s great feedback.

Mark
Yeah. Well, let’s connect the dots for the multifamily then. Obviously, you guys have time freedom, you both left your jobs. I know you guys have done smaller multifamily, I think you said about 24 units now that you guys own. What were those benefits of doing those smaller multifamily deals, and how did that help you get to retirement quicker?

Rob
Well, the first two deals we did all on our own. Right? So, you know, all the sweat equity that goes into it, we benefit directly from all that. And then on the third deal, when we actually had investor money because we had other folks’ money, we were that much more on point and careful to make sure we– this is not our money. We want to make sure a handsome return for the investors and also, you know, get them their capital back and a handsome return.

Tara
That was really nerve-wracking for the first time, to be responsible for other people’s money. You know, it’s one thing when it’s your own, but yeah, just making sure you’re doing everything right, timely, you know, so you don’t screw anything up.

Rob
It makes you better. And then we’ll realize that we should run our own portfolio as if all of it is investors’ money.

Tara
Right.

Rob
So, I think doing those things and just realizing that you know, everything we put into these properties, we directly benefit. That where the W-2, I mean, I worked for UPS, and they made $93 billion last year. My raise before I left was two and a half percent.

Rod
You know I work at UPS, too. I don’t know if you heard that story, if you were in the room. Yes. Loading trucks. I lasted a couple of weeks. I think I lost 12 pounds or something and just about killed myself. I don’t know how people do it. I know that’s not what you did but, good God.

Rob
20 years is all I did. Of course.

Rod
Yeah.

Rob
But I got the management so–

Tara
Yeah, and he was managing projects and traveling a lot.

Rod
Sure.

Tara
And that was the biggest, I think, motivator for us is having him home versus having him flying all over the US. And gone away from the kids.

Rob
Yeah, in the fourth quarter of 2020 I was gone for three to four days a week, every week of the fourth quarter. And that’s when all the birthdays are. That’s when Christmas, Thanksgiving is. But I was building two new buildings in States, not where we live, and that was a really, really dark time, and I dreamt about where I’m at today.

Rod
No kidding. So you already started visualizing it. Well, good for you.

Rob
Yes.

Rod
You know, were there any like epiphanies on this journey of yours, you know, where you’re like, okay, now I get it moments as it relates to real estate or any piece of this?

Rob
Yes. Early on, I was listening to, you know, one of the many multifamily podcasts out there, and they talked about the cap rate and the NOI, and they talked about if you get an asset, how they’re valued. If you decrease expenses and increase the rent, you can just manufacture value. You could just create– and when I played that back again, I’m like, just something clicked, and I was like, oh, I’m getting chills talking about it right now, but this is where I need to be because it makes so much sense to get a multifamily because you run it something more efficiently, you offer some more services, you increase the NOI, the little business is making more money. It’s just worth more, and you can either sell it or refinance to pull that out and do it again. So that was my moment–

Rod
Yeah. Let me give you a dramatic example of that, just to hammer that home. I give you several, actually. But the one that comes to mind right now, if you haven’t heard me, we’ve got an asset in San Antonio where we numbered the parking places, and we asked the residents if you want your own parking place, it’s $25 a month, we’ll reserve it for you, it’s yours. It would be the closest to your unit. And we had, I believe, over 100 people take us up on it. That was an $800,000 instant increase in value. 800 grand for some freaking numbers on parking spaces. So that’s why we love this business, guys. So anyway, yeah, I mean, any increase to that NOI is an exponential increase to value. It’s like a 17 to 20 to one. So $1 increase in net income, a 17 to $20 increase in value.

Rob
Yeah.

Mark
So, has that been your guys’ strategy then? I know you said you raise a little bit of money, which we can get into, but was your strategy just find smaller properties to then bump rents, then pull the money out, then roll over to the next one? Roll to the next one? Is that how you’ve done this in the past 40 months? Or was it different?

Rod
I don’t think they’ve sold. Have you or—

Tara
No, we haven’t sold [inaudible]

Rob
We’ve done two refinances.

Rod
Right, you refinance, you pull money out. Kind of BRRRR method thing?

Tara
Right.

Rod
Buy, renovate, refinance, repeat? Is that it? Yeah, I think that’s it.

Mark
Something like that. So, you guys basically just did that method with smaller multifamily then, is that right?

Tara
Yeah, so, initially, like gosh, I’ve been bugging him since like the early years of HGTV to like flip a house. So, you know, again, I wanted to put that creative, you know, design to work. And so, you know, the first building we bought, we just thought, oh, we can get higher rents for it. But then again, when we went and saw it, it’s like, no, we can do a little bit of work and get much higher rents for it.

Rob
We just said, let’s try it. You know, either you win or you learn, right? We tried it, and when we did list and we listed it for $1,000 and we realized we had, you know, several, you know, tons of people wanted it, we realized our rent is still too low.

Tara
Right.

Rob
So the next one is listed a little bit more.

Rod
Yeah.

Tara
And I’ll give a huge learning experience too. So that first unit, you know, Rob’s super handy, and we’re like, well, we can do this. We can renovate it ourselves. Well, he was still working 60 hours a week, and so by this time he finished renovating it, it took three months to renovate. And that was him you know, working all day.

Rob
Nights and weeks.

Tara
Coming home, you know, spending a little bit of time just for dinner, and then he was working till like, 03:00 A.M. And then getting up and doing it all over again.

Rob
Quietly because there were tenants here in the building.

Tara
And so, we realized by the time we spent three months of losing you know, him in our household–

Rod
And rent. And rent, I mean, so, you know. Yeah.

Tara
So, we were losing rent, and that rent could pay for a contractor.

Rod
You bet.

Tara
And so we learned that first unit that– hired a contractor.

Rob
So that’s what we did. We had a contractor and took him one month instead of three. The cost was the same, but I got you know, three months of nights and weekends back.

Tara
Yeah, my husband and a father back at home.

Rod
Yeah, that’s a little important. So what words of wisdom would you share with aspiring commercial multifamily real estate investors? They’re sitting on the sidelines like you guys were before the Toyota incident. And, you know, what might you say to the tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of people that will hear this that haven’t taken action yet?

Rob
I would say learn as much as you can, right? Figure out how you want to proceed, learn as much as you can but at some point, you’ve got to take action. You’ve got to, you know, take the deep swallow sign on that line. You’ve got to put offers on property. You’ve got to take action to take one foot in front of the other and get towards your goals because you know, I do know some folks that have been looking and looking, looking, but have not been able to pull the trigger on anything. And it’s not going to go perfect, you’re going to learn a ton. It’s going to be harder your first time, but the next time, the next time it gets easier. And then you’ll start to accumulate you know, war stories and successes, but you got to get started one way or the other.

Rod
Yeah.

Tara
And I would say go to Rod Khleif’s boot camp.

Rod
Thank you.

Tara
I mean, hands down. Again, I was excited about real estate before, but just going out of there, I just felt like a Warrior. I felt like I had all the tools behind me. I had, you know, my whole team of soldiers behind me because that’s the best thing about the Warrior group, is everybody is willing to share so much.

Rob
And she discovered her superpower, which is networking. I mean, I couldn’t keep– she’s meeting– you know, Rod’s over here, Garrison’s over here. I was just following her around at the end of the boot camp, just meeting people because that’s her superpower.

Rod
That’s awesome.

Tara
By the way, I had a lovely 30 to 45 minutes conversation with your beautiful wife.

Rod
Thank you.

Tara
And connected with her.

Rod
She’s more beautiful on the inside than the outside, isn’t she?

Tara
Absolutely. Yeah.

Rod
Yeah. She’s in Paris right now, actually, with her girlfriend. Yeah, they’re having a ball.

Tara
Awesome.

Rod
I’m seeing the posts online, but they’re having a ball.

Mark
So I’m curious, you guys already were taking action right before this. Why did you guys decide to become Warriors and do this thing?

Rod
Oh, good question.

Rob
Yeah. We decided because I realized you know, I was living my life in fear. I worked for the same company for you know, 17 years, and I had that job in college. I never even interviewed. I was too scared.

Rod
Wow.

Rob
What if I get another job and I don’t like it? What if they fire me? What if it’s not enough money? What if health care, all these things, and I didn’t even know it at the time, but I was too scared to take a chance and do something else? I think when we joined the program, I thought, you know, enough is enough. We got to do something differently, right? And I just thought, you know, now is the time. So we jumped in with both feet. That’s been great.

Rod
Yeah.

Tara
I would just add that the connection that you have to people who have raised capital, who have access to capital, who, again, just that team effort versus you know, just being Rob and Tara. You know, we bought our first two, and, yeah, you know, we can grow this fast. But, you know, when you’re in a team as big as the Warriors, you can grow exponentially.

Rod
Any rate you want. In fact, that’s going to be a question in a minute. But let me just say this. Guys, if you’re listening, and you know, I got to say this. An incredible opportunity is coming. We could be heading into the greatest transfer of wealth we see in our lifetimes. I’m actually doing a Facebook Live this weekend about just the headlines about layoffs and job cuts and, you know, sales have dropped through the floor. New home sales, used car sales. And, you know, it’s going to be opportunities, opportunities coming, but you got to get up to speed as quickly as possible. Now, if you want to inquire into our Warrior program, to apply, you text the word “crush”, crush to “72345”, and we will help you freaking crush it in this business like we did with the Shedden’s here. So again, text “crush” to “72345” to apply, and basically, you know, you look us over, we look you over, and even if it’s not a fit, either way, you’ll leave that call better than when you came on. But, you know, let me ask you this. What’s next for you guys? You know, I mean, you’ve done the small stuff. Are you thinking maybe you’ll syndicate, do some larger stuff, and get some scale going? What are your thoughts?

Rob
We’re kind of going in two directions. Tara’s kind of taking one aspect, I’m kind of taking the other. So why don’t you open with?

Tara
Yeah. So again, you know, sometimes you need to hear things from somebody else. And this is where that marriage team works. So I’ve been trying to get into furnished rentals for a long time. We have four large healthcare systems here, and you know, I know there are so many traveling doctors, you know locum docs, traveling nurses, traveling sonographers, etc. And I wanted to really do a furnished rental. So at the boot camp, we were able to meet somebody on the team who has been doing that and is crushing it in midterm rentals. And so we finally got Rob on board and we are going to try out three of our rental properties as mid-term rentals.

Rod
Nice.

Tara
So I’ve just been you know, gosh, furnishing three whole apartments is a whole new work that I’ve done.

Rod
Oh, to pretend you don’t like it, you know, you’re having fun doing that.

Rob
Yeah, she loves it.

Tara
I do. I do. I love designing, the shopping, you know, and all of that, but it’s a lot more work than I thought it would be. So that’s one aspect that we’re going to start doing. And Rob?

Rob
And the idea is, with the mid-term rentals, the rent is so much higher. Obviously, NOI, which is so important, goes up. We’re looking hopefully a year down the road, allow us to take more money out and put that in real estate. So I’m working with two new partners and we are laser-focused on looking at deals in Kansas City, Missouri, and in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Rod
Nice.

Rob
So 80, 99 doors, C-class.

Rod
So, you’re all over. You’re going to syndicate. Good. All right, you got both things happening. I love it. Yeah, I love it. That’s awesome.

Mark
I wanted to know, on those furnished rentals just roughly because I like the numbers, I get excited. I know a lot of people do. What sorts of percentage increase do you guys think that you’ll get if you get what you think from going from a regular to a furnished rental?

Rod
Well, keep in mind there’s going to be some vacancy in there too. So, you know, the rental amount will obviously be significantly higher, but you’ve got to offset it with the fact it’s not an annual rental. But yeah, I’d love to hear your answer.

Rob
66%.

Rod
66%.

Mark
Wow.

Rob
We’re getting 1500 for our three bedrooms. We’re going to try to get 2500 for those things furnished.

Rod
And what is the length of time you’re going to do them for a minimum?

Tara
A minimum, I would do a month.

Rob
Yeah.

Rod
A month. Okay.

Mark
So that’s what gets you excited, guys. [inaudible]

Rod
Just a couple of quick questions. So you use all the platforms, like Airbnb and whatever the other ones are. I don’t even know them off on top of my head. Is that the marketing plan?

Tara
So I haven’t gotten into Airbnb yet because I still want to have control of who is getting in there. So I’m just going to put them through our normal platforms you know, that we list our apartments on. That way I can still really vet who’s going to be in those units.

Rob
So what will happen because the rent is so high in their furnished, the tenants really self-select, so no one is going to live in their hometown and choose to go to a mid-term rental, fully furnished, across town. They’ve got all their stuff, so we’re looking for people that are new to Rockford. Where am I going to live, man? You know, a short-term rental would be perfect for these types of folks. They’re usually on a housing stipend or some type of increased rate for their travel. So we’re hoping that the high rent and the furnished nature of these units will help the tenants self-select and will get some really good high-quality folks. And those healthcare individuals, they’re almost prescreened, right? Because you got to have a clean background to be working in healthcare.

Rod
Yeah. No, those will be great tenants, no question. And of course, they’ll be subsidized. In many cases, they’ll be paid for by you know, whoever is training them and so on and so forth.

Rob
Yeah.

Tara
Right.

Rod
So, that’s great. Well, listen, guys, it has been a real treat to see you again, and you’ve added some real value here today and hopefully inspired you know, people that are in relationships to consider you know, the setup that you guys came up with. And look at you both retired from super high-paying jobs, and that’s fantastic. So, I really appreciate you coming on. It’s great to see you. Are you coming to the Warrior event we’re having in Sarasota? Are you going to be there?

Tara
Yeah.

Rod
Fantastic.

Tara
Extending it out for a little bit of a Disney trip with the family.

Rod
Oh, Perfect. Perfect.

Mark
There you go.

Rod
So those of you listening, we do you know, events just for our Warriors where we do deep dives on underwriting and area analysis, and more than anything else, networking, because we found that you know, out of the 90,000, upwards of 90,000 plus doors our Warriors owned, most of those were done between Warriors, and so we do everything we can to facilitate connections, and that’s one of those things as a Warrior event. But, well, wonderful, then I’ll see you at the end of this month. All right, guys. You take care. It’s great to see you. Appreciate you coming on.

Rob
Thank you.

Tara
Thank you.

Outro
Rod, I know a lot of our listeners are wanting to take their multifamily investing business to the next level. Now, I know you’ve been hard at work helping our Warrior students do just that using our “ACT” methodology, which is Awareness, Close, and Transform. Can you explain to the listeners how they can get our help?

Rod
You bet. Guys, we’ve been going non-stop for three years building an amazing community of like-minded people, and our coaching students which we call our Warriors have had extraordinary results. They’ve purchased thousands and thousands of units and last year we did over a thousand units with our students. And we’re looking to grow this group and take it to the next level. We’re looking for people who want to follow a proven framework that’s really step by step and then leverage our systems and network to raise equity, to find and close deals, and to build partnerships nationwide. Now, our Warrior community is finding success in any market cycle. So if you’re interested in finding out more about how you can become more of our incredible network and take advantage of the incredible opportunities that are coming very soon, apply to work with us at “MentorWithRod.com” or text the word “CRUSH” to “72345” and we’ll set up a call so you can check us out and we can check you out. Again, to apply, text “CRUSH” to “72345”.