Frank Patalano became a school teacher right out of college. Eventually he saved up enough money to start buying real estate. Buying a house or two every year, he eventually decided to take the leap to be a full time investor. He is now passively or actively involved in 9 markets across the United States. Now his business focuses are Syndications, Virtual Assistants, and a Hotel.
Here’s some of the topics we covered:
- Switching From Single Family To Multifamily Real Estate
- Multifamily Has Better Cashflow Than Single Family
- Networking To Find The Best Deals
- Never Go In Alone, Always Bring The Team
- Why Do People Want To Invest With You?
- Looking At The Neighborhoods Near Your Property
- How To Overcome The Fear of 2023
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Intro
Hi. My name is Rod Khleif, and I’m the host of “The Lifetime Cash Flow Through Real Estate Investing” podcast. And every week, I interview Multifamily Rock Stars and we talk about how they built incredible wealth for themselves and their families through multifamily properties. So hit the “Like” and “Subscribe” buttons to get notified every Monday when a new episode comes out. Let’s get to it.
Rod
Welcome back to Multifamily Rock Stars. Now, this is where we interview people that are crushing it in this business. And we show you guys, really, some of the inside workings into how multifamily investors are just, like I say, crushing it and creating massive success in their businesses and as importantly, probably more importantly, in their lives. And as always, I’ve got my co-host, who’s also the director of our massive action team for the Warrior Group, Mark Nagy. Hey, Mark.
Mark
Glad to be here, Rod. I think we’re going to get some good gold nuggets today, for sure.
Rod
Oh, yeah, absolutely. So today we’ve got Frank Patalano. And Frank– I’ve actually been on Frank’s podcast. He’s a Warrior, but he’s got his own podcast called “The Cash Flow Kings”. Love the name. And he was a school teacher. He’s now in, you know, over 350 doors as a GP. And I know a bunch as a limited partner, as well. He’s done deals with Warriors. Recently, they just closed on one. And so we’re going to have some fun today. Welcome to the show, brother.
Frank
Thank you, sir. Happy to be here.
Rod
All right. Well, listen, why don’t we start off as we always do by having you tell a little bit of your story? I mean, a school teacher huh? Okay. You’re [inaudible] for punishment.
Frank
Absolutely. My wife and I were both school teachers in the small state of Rhode Island, and then I also worked a part-time job for many years because we’re always worried about, you know, getting that pink slip. And eventually, we just started to generate a little bit of cash. And what did they end up doing with it? We could have spent it. We could have, you know, really enjoyed ourselves and blown it. But I love the concept of investing. So I went out there and bought some small multifamily and some single families and grew from there. You know, one or two a year and just kept growing.
Rod
Nice. Nice. Nice. Now, I know that you know, like you say, you started out as a single-family. You know, let’s talk about why you transitioned, you know because I did the same thing. And of course, I’m a little slow. It took me a little longer to get the memo on that, but please talk about your experience.
Frank
Sure. I mean, I started out with a small multi just because I thought they cash flowed better than the singles. But even those, I’ve sold off most of those holdings as well. And the single families, I mean, I love them in some ways, but it’s kind of hard that when you have a vacancy, you’re 100% vacant.
Rod
Yeah.
Frank
And they don’t cash flow super well in my market at all. I basically held them for appreciation for a while, and then once they were worth double what I paid for them, it’s like I’m not making any cash every month on them, so we just sold them off and–
Rod
Yeah. That’s very common with single-family, you know. And, you know, it’s interesting that you said it the way you said it, because I love them too, but they just– I really do, and I’m so good at single-family. You know, I’ve owned 2,000, rented long-term, and I miss them, honestly. I actually miss them, but they just don’t cash flow. And of course, that’s what kicked my ass in 2008, and ’09 was the 800 houses that I had. So you switched over because of the cash flow and– like I did, ultimately. You know, I know you’ve done some deals outside the Warrior program and recently several inside the Warrior program. What role do you play on your team? Where do you find yourself because obviously you’ve got your platform with your podcast, but are you leveraging that? Just speak to that a little bit.
Frank
Yeah. So the main thing I am is investor relations. I have been a KP on a number of deals as well. Smaller deals, especially, you know, coming out as the school teacher takes a while to ramp up that net worth, but we’ve done okay. And then I’m a networker. You’ve seen me go around whenever you have either a Warrior meeting or a boot camp, and I always wearing a shirt or something like that, always talking to everybody.
Rod
Didn’t you give me some T-shirts once?
Frank
I don’t know.
Rod
Is that you?
Frank
No. You only had one, though.
Rod
Okay, I might be confused. I don’t know the Warrior that gave me a bunch of T-shirts at one of my events. I guess it wasn’t you. But anyway, guys, if you’re driving, you don’t see he’s got his Cash Flow King’s T-shirt on. And so, I mean, he brands himself all the time. But just in case you don’t know, you said you were a KP on some deals, and some people may not know what that means. That means Key Principal, and that means he signed on the debt. And when you’re a Key Principal, you know, that’s one of the roles you can play in a deal like– you know, these multifamily deals require you to meet net worth requirements. They require you to meet post-closing liquidity requirements, and they require you to meet some experience requirements. But what’s great is you can find one person that satisfies all those requirements to be a sponsor, and then, of course, they’re going to be a KP in the deal. And so that’s why I asked him what role he played. So you’ve been a KP and you’re obviously investor relations if you’ve got your podcast because you can talk about deals.
Frank
Absolutely, yeah. Love it. I mean, I’m up in Rhode Island, so we’re not doing many deals up here, smaller properties. So I’m not boots on the ground in any way, but I can fill out the other roles.
Rod
Nice.
Mark
So obviously you’re in the Warrior network now, and obviously, you love networking. How do you think being around those other like-minded individuals and doing that networking, how has that changed you, you know, your mindset, and the way you do things at this point versus before when you were doing, you know, things on your own, the single families?
Frank
Well, I mean, even when I was doing that, I was part of my local REIA, but obviously, there are not many syndicators in a small REIA, locally. So just being able to hang out, talk, network with people that are looking to keep growing and be bigger and bigger. You know, I had two Warrior phone calls today. One is a possible opportunity, and the other one’s just networking to build that relationship, you know. Even though they’re newer, they have some great potential and stuff that I’d really want to work with them on in the future. So it was awesome.
Rod
Nice. Yeah, you know, one of the things that we’ve discovered– oops, I got my email on. One of the things that we’ve discovered in the program itself is that our most successful Warriors by far are the ones that are the most connected inside. Oh, gosh. I’m trying to close it out, and it’s beeping all over the place. Sorry about that, guys. Anyway, you know, that our most successful Warriors are the ones that are the most connected inside the Warrior community itself. And we discovered this about three years ago. So we do everything we can to, you know, try to help facilitate those connections. Like today, we had our biweekly Q and A, and after that, we have, you know, speed dating, where you can meet Warriors randomly, and then we do the Warrior-only events like I saw you here for that. And then, you know, we also connect Warriors with the Warriors that live by them and just do everything we can to facilitate that because that really is one of the keys to success. It’s not what you know, it’s who you know, honestly. Would you agree with that?
Frank
Absolutely. I don’t even speak to brokers. I don’t speak to sellers. Every deal that I have found has been brought to me through networking.
Rod
Right. Yeah. Talk about a seminar. Talk about a setback that you had on this journey. If it’s an example of something that people can learn from an add– you can add some value to.
Frank
Sure. I think I would go with the concept of back to that networking thing and partnerships. So you don’t know what you don’t know. And many times I’ve tried to go it alone, where I’ll either try to buy either a vacant lot to build and build my own house or I bought a commercial property that was not officially commercial property. But if I had had partners on those deals, instead of trying to go it alone, it would have been a second set of eyes to really look at that stuff and learn from it. And on the syndication space, I mean, I’ve been involved in almost 15 deals now, and I haven’t lost money on anyone. So that power of really being a team sport really helps you link together and catch the mistakes early.
Rod
No question. And guys, you know, even if you’re not interested in the Warrior program, if you’re going to do this business, you need to put together a group that looks at deals together and looks for reasons not to do the deal. You know you don’t want somebody– you don’t want yes people in your group. You want people like no. Did you look at this, this, and this? What about under that rock? And did you make that phone call and did you do that? Because there are a lot of little nuances here, you know, and if you want to get a feel for the flavor of this, you know, definitely get your butt to one of my boot camps. I’ve got a virtual one coming up. This will go live before then. It’s on January 21st and 22nd, I think, and tickets are still less than $100 and I don’t sell anything there. It’s kind of a duh if you’re interested in this business. So definitely want to do that. But yeah. So it was the team component for you?
Frank
Absolutely.
Rod
Yeah.
Mark
I wanted to back up real quick and focus on a golden nugget that you mentioned that we kind of glossed over, which is you said all the deals you’ve done have been people bringing them to you. And that’s a question I get all the time. Right? How do you find deals? What is the network? For the listeners, if you could just kind of logically and simply break that down for the listeners how that works, is it that they’re the deal finders and you bring a different skill to the table and you just set up a call and happen to work with people like that? How does that work logically, where people are bringing new deals?
Frank
So it’s all about skill sets and it’s all about relationships. So I was in Utah at a different event, and I just happened to go to a few of the local REIA’s, meet some people that I knew on Facebook. They’re all different people in the syndication space. And one thing led to another and I said, how can I help you? And they said, we need to help finish this and you want to be a part of the team. And I knew them for like two years online and, yeah, I loved the concept and we helped close the deal. We brought it down. And it was great.
Rod
Yeah. So there are a lot of things you can do to help. I’m assuming you know, you brought investors and you brought some money to the deal and, you know, you have to be actively involved, obviously, to do that, correct? Yes?
Frank
Yeah, definitely. I looked over the deal. I turned down a lot of opportunities. I turned down two today so far, but with that one, I was able to bring the rest of the money they needed. And I go to every GP meeting and every asset management meeting.
Rod
Nice. Yeah, that’s super important because you can’t just raise equity, guys, just so you know, you’ve heard me talk about that before. But, you know, another thing that’s super important is, you know, as you’re building this– or aligning with other team members, you know if you’re going to be involved and be a GP in the deal and maybe even a KP in the deal, you need to know who you’re doing business with because you know, you’re going to be in bed with them for quite a while. So it’s not like, you know, if you’re new off the street that you’re going to bring a deal to somebody and expect to be involved in it other than maybe, you know, a fee for bringing it to you. Because you know people need to get a flavor for who they’re dealing with in this business you know before they’re going to be a sponsor on a deal. And that’s why you know, being in a community of people that are proactively doing this so you can get a feel for who they are and see what their work ethic is and see what they’re going to bring to the table. And that’s the other thing, and I’m sure you agree with this, Frank, you date before you get married. You do one deal together, you see how it works. And if it doesn’t work out, I’m sure you’ve had deals you’re like, man, I’m not doing another one with that person. Right?
Frank
Absolutely. Yeah.
Rod
Right.
Frank
That’s why– I usually haven’t been part of a full team, team. People bring me in to help finish out a team, you know. What’s awesome about that though, is now I have three or four different teams that send me deals all the time. Which is really great.
Rod
Right. And that’s really very common. We have the same thing in our– you know, with the deals that I buy. And so, it’s nice. I mean, you focus on what you’re good at. And that’s the thing, guys. In this team sport business, there are a lot of hats you can wear. So he raises equity because he’s got his podcast and, you know, obviously, plays a role in the back end on an advisory capacity. And then, you know, maybe you’re the person that brings the deals. Maybe you’re the person that loves spreadsheets and does the underwriting. Maybe you’re the person that’s got some construction or property management or asset management or project management experience and you’re in the asset management piece. So there are a lot of different hats that you can get involved in this business.
Frank
Well, one example of something that was really good though, was we had a deal last year and I was at an event and somebody called me and said, hey, would you be interested in being a limited partner on it? And at the time I had somebody, so I said, yeah, I’ll think about it. And then three days later they said, I need help. I’m $100,000 hard and I’m about to lose this deal. My whole GP team fell apart. Will you come in?
Rod
Yeah.
Frank
And I was able to KP that and raise a million dollars.
Rod
Fantastic. Yeah. We had a similar situation on an asset in Dallas, a much larger deal, but the guy was about to lose his earnest money. We came in, Powell, who, you know, brought us the deal, and we came in and I don’t know how much we raised, probably about 8 million or 9 million, and brought it home. And it’s a deal that’s been 100% occupied since day one. We’ve gotten the value up, I don’t know, 12, 13 million at this point, an increase. So, you know, screaming deal. And it was again, the same situation. And that’s why, guys, this business is a freaking team sport. Get out there, get connected, meet as many people as you can because that’s how you put this thing together. You just heard Frank say, you know, he’s in another town and he’ll go to meetups and just poke around and network. And that’s the secret to this.
Mark
Now, I get a lot of questions on what you just mentioned, Frank as well, which is, you know, raising money, right? Why would people want to give you money? Now, for your typical investor, right, are you typically raising money from other real estate investors? Are they just regular people that want to get their money out of the 401k? What’s kind of your typical investor and why do they like investing with you in multifamily?
Frank
So, since I run my local REIA, most of my investors are real estate professionals, which I know is rare compared to the average person that’s doing this.
Mark
Sure.
Frank
I always like to talk about the symbiotic relationship between GPs and LPs, between those active and passive investors. I’ve been a passive investor in ten deals. It allows me to get into markets. I have no business being in because I have no knowledge. But it’s about building relationships and helping put deals to work. So I was investing in Rod’s Shreveport deal. That was the first time I met Rod, and I’m happy with it. Even though you weren’t. I still made money.
Rod
Well, you made money. You made money. But it was the bane of my freaking existence, okay?
Frank
Oh, [inaudible].
Rod
Let’s talk about that for a second. I forgot you were in that. So we bought this 403-unit asset in Shreveport. It was actually the one exception. It wasn’t brought to me by a Warrior. Every other deal was brought by a Warrior. But this was brought by an ex-partner that I thought knew what he was doing. He had 4,000 doors. He had his own management company. It was a freaking train wreck. In fact, it took me eight months to get him out of there, and eight months in the pools were still green in a 400-unit asset. So I literally spent months of my life there. You know, when I took it over, it was at $98,000 a month gross income. And when we sold it a few months ago, I got it up to 280, but I had to practically live there. I had to dump $2 million into the thing, and it was just a freaking nightmare. But I don’t even want to fly over Shreveport airspace again. If you live there, I’m sorry, but you know what I mean. Okay?
Frank
So if you have faith in the act of people, you know they’re going to do the right thing on that deal. I could sleep at night, no problem at all. I know Rod was able to, but that’s the benefit of being a passive investor sometimes.
Rod
Yeah.
Frank
I like doing both. But it’s nice when you get this mailbox money, this automatic direct deposit on deals in South Dakota, North Carolina, Kansas City, Missouri. I mean, a lot of other deals as well besides my own, which is really–
Rod
You got to check out the operators. I mean, like I said, a lot of other operators with that deal would have crashed and freaking burned, okay? Because we had to put in a lot of money. I had to live there to make it happen. If I hadn’t gone there and spent literally months I’m not exaggerating, away from my bride, which I hated, it would not have turned around. And so, you know, you’ve really got to check out the operator. By the way, if you are a passive investor, I’ve got a list of questions you should ask a GP before you invest with them, and text “GP questions” to “72345”. So “GP questions” to “72345” because you really want to check people out to make sure– and like you do, I’m sure, Frank, before you invest in somebody’s– I mean, you’re much more seasoned now, but even before you were, you know, you really want to make sure they’ve got it together because there’s going to be some pain over the next couple of years. People that did bridge debt, that didn’t know what they were doing, didn’t you know, calculate for interest rate increases, for cap rates to change and everything else, there’s going to be some pain. There’s going to be some opportunity, and I know there is. There’s going to be an incredible opportunity. So, in fact, let’s talk about that for a second. What do you think about all that?
Frank
So I’m already starting to see a little bit of it just with the raising. It’s harder to raise, people are nervous, people are scared.
Rod
Yeah.
Frank
I mean, I’ve seen deals even before the market changed where we had people that joined the GP and were able to raise nothing.
Rod
Right.
Frank
So, you know, with that, though, I’m a little excited because there are opportunities. You can be creative. You couldn’t be creative six months ago. They wanted so much money down hard. They weren’t willing to do any type of seller financing. They weren’t willing to give you any money back and anything. Not saying I want to retrade, but they weren’t willing to give you a dollar on anything even if you found the mistakes. But now, you can be a little more creative with things. That it’s pretty awesome. I’m actually–
Rod
Yeah. No, you’re absolutely right. You can actually have some due diligence. Instead of going hard immediately, you can have financing contingencies. Talk about this deal you just closed with Warriors. Where was it? In the Carolina somewhere?
Frank
Yeah. So it was just outside of Charleston, South Carolina. It’s in Mount Pleasant. Beautiful B/A area. Two Starbucks within 2 miles and like, five within ten minutes.
Rod
Oh, that’s a critical factor, man. If it’s not a Starbucks, if it’s just a Duncan, they’re out of luck, man. I’m not buying it, honestly.
Frank
And I think there was a Lulu Lemon within 2 miles as well. But, yeah, it was just a complete off-market deal. I thank the rest of the GP team for letting me be a part of it.
Rod
Nice.
Frank
I’m very excited about it. And we basically– were able to raise rents a lot just because– it was just a perfect situation. There was a bank involved. There was, unfortunately, a husband that had died. The widow was still running it, and she didn’t necessarily needed or wanted it anymore, and everything fell into place. We were able to raise all the money within– we had commits within 72 hours for the entire thing, and it was a big deal.
Rod
Yeah, that’s a good market. That’s a good market. Awesome. By the way, guys, if you are interested in the Warrior program, please text the word “crush” to “72345”. Same that “72345” number and to apply. Okay? And again, you text the word “crush” so we can help you freaking crush it in this business to “72345”. And we’ll check you out. You can check us out, and if it’s a fit, hallelujah. And if it’s not, you’ll still leave that call better than when you started it. But let me ask you another question. You know, if you could go back in time, is there anything you might do differently, Frank, in your journey? I asked this you know, regularly just to get a feel because I usually know what the answer is, but I’m curious what it is for you.
Frank
There are so many things. Number one, I would have worked a lot harder.
Rod
Okay.
Frank
Number two, I would have set some goals. I’ve been able to be successful without having a lot of goals, especially early on. I was just, like, poking around and doing things. I was working two jobs, seven days a week, killing myself. And now I do the opposite. I make a lot more choices, and I don’t have to work at W-2 anymore, which is really awesome, you know.
Rod
Nice.
Mark
I love that. And by the way, real quick. I know Frank mentioned the Starbucks for maybe newer listeners that don’t understand there the idea behind that. Obviously, we do market research, but there are billion-dollar companies like Starbucks, Whole Foods, et cetera, that spend a lot of money figuring out where to put their locations. And so when they say it’s great that there are Starbucks there, that’s just kind of an extra little bonus, knowing that these huge companies that you know, it’s a good area, right?
Rod
Let me expand on that, guys.
Mark
Yes, please.
Rod
So we want to see national retailers around our assets. I don’t want to see you know, Frank’s burgers and sushi. I want to see Starbucks, Publix, Kroger, Home Depot, and Lowe’s. Big national retailers that, like you say, do their demographical research. I mean, when you’re in an area like that, that has these big players, you know, it’s a solid area. So, do you agree, Frank?
Frank
Absolutely, 100%. And especially ones that are tied to the demographic that you’re looking to seek out as tenants.
Rod
Yeah.
Mark
But I just want to clarify that real quick. But I want to ask you one more question, Frank, because we’re excited for next year, the opportunity, because we’re you know, knowledgeable. We’re in there taking action. What have you been doing, and maybe speak to those people that are a little bit fearful, right? What are you doing to overcome a lot of the fear and fear-mongering that’s going out there in the world? And what would you say to those people that are fearful of a “recession” or drop in real estate, whatever you want to call it?
Frank
Well, I haven’t really changed what I’m doing. I’m doing the same things I’ve always done. I’m building knowledge. You know, the more you know, the more comfortable you can be with things. I think one of your mentors, Rod, Tony Robbins, does he talk about knowledge is not really power, but action is power.
Rod
Applied knowledge is a direct quote. Applied knowledge is power. You’ve got to actually take that and do something with it, which is why you know, most college professors have never done a business, you know. They just don’t. And that’s why you know, you’re just not going to learn what you need to learn to go out there and crush it in business, in most colleges. There may be some exceptions, you know Standford.
Frank
No, I agree 100%.
Frank
Yeah. Oh, gosh, I had a thought there and I forgot what it was. Well, listen, one thing I want to ask you, Frank, is, you know, you see a lot of newbies with your REIA, with your podcast and people calling you and reaching out, and I know you help new Warriors and stuff. What would you tell somebody that is sitting here listening to the show, that hasn’t taken action, that hasn’t done anything you know, to change their life, to make their life better? You know, what might you say to somebody out there sitting on the sidelines, that’s in the rat race, that knows they need to go do something and hasn’t done it yet?
Frank
There are people every day and every week that sit down and watch hours and hours of sports or they’re part of a different club, or they’re out there at the bars every weekend, and that’s perfectly fine if that’s what you want to do with your life. But if you set yourself to a commitment and take some massive freaking action and just spend a few hours learning about real estate, networking, et cetera, you can make a big change in your life. And no matter what, whether you make a lot of money or you have a seminar on that first deal– I lost money on my first deal. But you build from it and it gets better.
Rod
Yeah. Well, and you create financial freedom. You create time freedom. You create freedom with your family. And guys, you know, we were talking about the market. I was just going to pull up Fox News real quick. We’re talking about the market and oh, God, I don’t want to get political, but the fact that they released that ball player instead of that Marine in trade for that arms dealer makes me absolutely freaking nuts. But we won’t go down that rabbit hole. But anyway, I was looking at some of the headlines in business, and I got to tell you, they’re starting to get scary and there’s going to be fear. But here’s the thing. Remember Warren Buffett’s famous quote, “be fearful when others are greedy”. It’s been greedy these last couple of years, but be greedy when others are fearful. Like here we go. Tight labor market. Number of Americans without jobs increases as the economy cools, you know. And there are a lot of headlines around, you know, legendary investor Sam Zell warns of a liquidity crisis. Odds of the economy going into recession, very high. That’s a brilliant guy. Okay? Sam Zell, hero of mine. In fact, you know, I’d love to have lunch with that guy. You know, lots of layoffs happening. I’m just looking at some of these headlines. So again, not trying to scare you. Those of you listening or watching, get freaking excited. Could be the greatest transfer of wealth we see in our lifetimes if you’re up to speed. You got to get your butt up to speed. So if it’s multifamily, come to one of my boot camps. If it’s single-family, go to somebody that teaches that. If it’s buying businesses, go to somebody that teaches that. But get up to speed immediately because once we’re in the thick of it, you’re not going to be able to capitalize on it. It will be too late. You’ve got to learn it now. Anyway, I stole a little of your thunder there, Frank, but I just wanted to get that because we talked about the economy a little bit. I wanted to get that in there. But it’s great to see you, brother, and I really appreciate you coming on the show and adding some value and we’re working out our boot camps right now for next year. I’ve got a call tomorrow at 10:00 to look at hotels, so hopefully, we’ll be able to do a live one again. I know your butt will be there. Anyway, we’ll see you there, my friend.
Frank
I try to make as much as I can. Sometimes it’s tough with the kids and everything else, but yeah. So one more thing, Rod. I could have chosen any group to be a part of, and I chose the Warrior program. So, yeah.
Rod
Thank you, brother. I appreciate that, man. I appreciate it. It’s become pretty extraordinary. I mean, it’s got a life of its own. It’s just incredible to see what’s happening inside there. I mean, I think we’re upwards of 130,000 units owned in the group and that’s all we know of. I keep telling people, hey, you didn’t post it in the group to find out, you know, that you closed on a deal. I see it on their personal stuff and they forget to post it in the Warrior group and yeah, it’s just extraordinary. Anyway, it’s good to see you, brother. I appreciate you coming on.
Frank
Thank you so much.
Mark
Thanks, Frank.
Outro
Rod, I know a lot of our listeners are wanting to take their multifamily investing business to the next level. Now, I know you’ve been hard at work helping our Warrior students do just that using our “ACT” methodology which is Awareness, Close, and Transform. Can you explain to the listeners how they can get our help?
Rod
You bet. Guys, we’ve been going non-stop for three years building an amazing community of like-minded people, and our coaching students which we call our Warriors have had extraordinary results. They’ve purchased thousands and thousands of units and last year we did over 1,000 units with our students. And we’re looking to grow this group and take it to the next level. We’re looking for people who want to follow a proven framework that’s really step by step and then leverage our systems and network to raise equity, to find and close deals, and to build partnerships nationwide. Now, our Warrior community is finding success in any market cycle. So if you’re interested in finding out more about how you can become more of our incredible network and take advantage of the incredible opportunities that are coming very soon, apply to work with us at “MentorWithRod.com” or text the word “CRUSH” to “72345” and we’ll set up a call so you can check us out and we can check you out. Again, to apply, text “CRUSH” to “72345”.
