From Kitchen Cabinets To Crushing Multifamily Real Estate

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Intro
Hi. My name is Rod Khleif, and I’m the host of “The Lifetime Cash Flow Through Real Estate Investing” podcast. And every week, I interview Multifamily Rock Stars and we talk about how they’ve built incredible wealth for themselves and their families through multifamily properties. So hit the “Like” and “Subscribe” buttons to get notified every Monday when a new episode comes out. Let’s get to it.

Rod
Welcome back to Multifamily Rock Stars. So as you guys know, this is where we interview people that are just flat-out crushing it in this business and also crushing it in their lives. And we show you the inside scoop as to, you know, how they create that massive success. And as always, I’ve got my co-host, who’s the director of my Massive Action Team for our Warrior group, Mark Nagy. Hey, Mark.

Mark
Hey, Rod. Happy to be here in New Year, 2023.

Rod
That’s right. Happy New Year, brother.

Mark
Yes.

Rod
Yeah, it’s going to be an awesome year. You know, I was looking at some of Grant Cardone’s stuff. I need to get some juice. I need to get a shot in the arm. So I’m doing a Tony Robbins show. I’m doing his Business Mastery, a couple of months and I’m doing the Growth Con in Vegas just to get a shot in the arm, you know. And I was reading one of his books because they send you a box with stuff in it. And I saw the quote “decide to dominate, not just compete”. And man, I freaking love that quote. So that’s our new mantra for the Warrior program. We’re just going to dominate instead of compete.

Mark
I love it.

Rod
But anyway, I got an awesome guest on the show today. His name is Joey Chan. And Joey’s been around real estate and he owns his own construction company for 20 years. He became a Warrior, I think, in ’21 and is in over a couple of hundred doors as a General Partner. He’s also in some units as an LP. He actually has his own podcast with another Warrior called “Newbie Real Estate Investors”. And so you may want to check that out, “Newbie Real Estate Investors”. And anyway, without any further ado, welcome to the show, Joey.

Joey
Hey, Rod. Thank you so much. I’m so honored to be on your show.

Rod
That’s very kind of you to say that. Well, listen, let’s have you start by telling a little bit about your story. Tell us who you are. You know I didn’t do you any justice. So take a few minutes and tell us who you are, where you came from, and bring us up to speed.

Joey
Sure, of course. So just like much like yourself, I’m an immigrant. I came to the US when I was about five or six years old, and my dad owned a restaurant, so I was always kind of like in that restaurant industry for a long time. And he was always a hard-working guy, works seven days a week and just never took any days off. We’ve never gone on any family vacations. Nothing like that. So my dad was always more like a business associate than a father, you know.

Rod
Did you immigrate from China? Forgive me. Where did you immigrate from?

Joey
Yes.

Rod
China. Okay. I didn’t want to guess. Okay, nice.

Joey
Yeah. So after that, basically, you know, I attended high school, and of course, I went to college. And in college, I studied actually Finance. But it wasn’t really anything I like to do, so I decided to do something else. And I got recruited to actually Home Depot to become a kitchen designer. And that’s kind of why I have a kitchen cabinet company. You know, I sell kitchen cabinets as well. So from there, I became a contractor. And after I became a contractor, I ran into a house back in 2008, and that was like, my first investment purchase. So from there, it was–

Rod
It was good timing. In 2008?

Joey
Yes.

Rod
Had things started to compress yet or was it before that happened?

Joey
It was actually around, like, close to December.

Rod
Okay, so good timing. Yeah.

Joey
Yeah. So things already started happening, and because I wasn’t really in the market, I didn’t really realize it. I wanted to do an add a level on that house.

Rod
Doing what? I’m sorry, I misunderstood you. Do a what?

Joey
Doing add a level.

Rod
Oh, add a level to the house. Okay. Wow. Like pop the top.

Joey
Yes.

Rod
Okay.

Joey
So I decided not to do that you know, and then I turned it into a single-family rental, which you know very much about.

Rod
You know, it’s funny, I talk about this all the time online. Don’t do single-family. Do multifamily. And I had somebody do– put a post on there that really resonated with me, like, yesterday or the day before, which was don’t do single-family because if you have a bad tenant, it’ll eat up your cash flow for more than a year, maybe two years. If it’s a really bad tenant, it can be debilitating. And that really resonated with me because it’s so factually accurate. But anyway, sorry, I digress. Continue. Yeah.

Joey
Yeah. So I did that. Anyway, I turned it into a rental. And then shortly after, I started a small lumber yard, almost like a mini Home Depot. From there, I lost tons of money. I lost about a half a million dollars. So that was kind of the same thing you had in 2000–

Rod
Seminar. That’s a seminar. Yeah.

Joey
Yeah. My seminar. My big seminar. So I did that. And then after I lost a ton of money, I just kind of, you know, put my head down, went back to work in my construction company, and I started going to small seminars back in 2015, and I got interested in flipping houses. So I started getting into that. In 2017, I started you know, flipping houses again. I kind of got out of debt, but what I really wanted to do was rentals, you know. I knew that rentals was the way to do it. A small multifamily and larger multifamily, that was really what I wanted to do.

Rod
And you live in Jersey, is it?

Joey
Yeah, New Jersey. Yeah.

Rod
Okay.

Joey
Yeah. Not the best market for rentals, but–

Rod
No, yeah that’s why I asked. But anyway, so did you do it? Did you go out and buy some small multi?

Joey
Yeah, we did. Yeah, so right now we have almost about 60 units. You know, we sold a few in the last year or so, but we have about 60 as far as you know, JV, not syndicated units.

Rod
Nice. Now, are those houses and small multi, everything, is it all lumped together?

Joey
So yes, it’s a little bit of everything.

Rod
Okay.

Joey
We have two family up to 11. No singles.

Rod
Okay. So they’re all multi. Good. Good. Good. That’s good.

Joey
No singles.

Rod
Yeah, right. Oh, that’s good. Just to digress for a moment, you know I know they’ve got some pretty onerous landlord-tenant laws in favor of the tenant. How has that impacted your business? If it has?

Joey
Yeah, it definitely has. So we have a couple of evictions going on right now, and a lot of them were mostly inherited tenants. So we did buy two single-family houses to flip, but they came with tenants. They were already renovated fully, and so we decided that they were pretty decent deals. You know we didn’t have to do you know like a full gut renovation.

Rod
Right.

Joey
And so there were plenty of equity in those. So we decided, hey, let’s buy these and, you know, let’s do some cash for keys to get rid of the tenants. That didn’t work, unfortunately. So they decided to stay. So one of them, fortunately, we were able to get them out. We have a warrant of removal on one of them, and we didn’t schedule the sheriff yet, but they should be coming sometime next week.

Rod
It’s no fun, but, you know, if they were fighting you and refusing to leave and everything else, I mean, you know, hey, it is what it is and– wow. So how long was the process? I don’t want to take too much time on this, but I am just curious for my own edification, how long did it take for you to get them out of there?

Joey
So we started in May of 2022.

Rod
Wow. Okay. Wow.

Mark
Oh.

Rod
We’re talking seven, eight months. Holy cow. Okay. All right. Well, listen, let’s not take any more time on that. Guys, listen, you know, this is not a political statement, but, you know, I don’t invest in blue states. I just don’t. It’s not political. You know you live there. So listen, you know, you like to keep things close and vest. To me, it’s too much brain damage. I had that situation in the past where it was hard to get people out. It was for a different reason, and it’s debilitating, you know, especially if you have a bunch of them that they’re not paying or, you know, you can’t get them out. But the beautiful thing about multifamily is you can do it anywhere in the country. I mean, we have assets in Texas, Kentucky, Ohio, Florida, Georgia, and north, the Carolinas. And you can do it anywhere. That’s the beautiful thing about multifamily. And I’m not trying to kick you in the butt, Joey, I just– to me, you know, it’s just too painful. You have restrictions– I’m sorry, one more question. You have restrictions on rent increases too, don’t you?

Joey
When there are four family and up.

Rod
You do. Yeah.

Joey
In certain towns? Not every town has that. Yeah.

Rod
Okay, well, please continue. I didn’t know if you finished your bio there.

Joey
Oh, no, that’s fine. I kind of lost track where I was.

Rod
Yeah, well, you were telling us you know, you got the 60 units and JV and stuff. Why did you join the Warrior program?

Joey
Well, again, I wanted to kind of expand. Right. I wanted to do the larger multi, get into syndications, you know, get into bigger deals. That’s it.

Rod
Right.

Joey
Because I have two business partners and the JV seemed like it wasn’t enough for all of us.

Rod
Yeah, I mean, you know, you reach a limit where there’s only so far you can go if you’re using your own funds.

Joey
Yeah.

Rod
And syndication is a beautiful thing. Yeah.

Joey
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Mark
I know you’re at a few hundred doors now, Joey, you know what do you think, if you had to guess, is going to be the hardest part to even getting to the next level, right? You’ve kind of taken that step from 60 and you’ve done some multi, few hundred, what do you think is going to be the hardest part to get to a few thousand or wherever it is that you may want to go in this business?

Joey
I think two things, right? The hardest thing right now is finding good deals. Just like everybody else, everybody is having an issue finding good deals. So that’s going to be the biggest key, right, finding a good deal. The second is for myself, not for anyone else, but for myself, raising capital. Because I didn’t kind of start doing that prior. You know, I did raise some capital for our smaller you know, for a single-family, fix and flips and things like that. But, you know, you go to one person, you approach them and they already know who you are because you’re local. It’s not that difficult. And it’s only one person. Now, you’re raising, let’s say a million, two million for these deals. Now, you’re going to a lot of people and the timeline is so much shorter too. You know, you have sometimes 30 days, 45 days to raise this money, quickly.

Rod
Yeah, you should be raising it in advance. I’m actually doing– writing a book right now on raising capital. It should be done here in probably 60 days and I’m going to do a course on it as well. But I am spending more time on it at my boot camps too, a lot more time. Because honestly, you know, I know it’s tough to find the deals right now, but that’s going to change, just trust me.

Joey
Alright.

Rod
Deals are coming. Okay? But finding the money and even the debt, you know, equity and debt is going to be more challenging. You know, banks are like ostriches when stuff gets ugly. They stick their heads in the sand. It’s the dumbest thing ever. But that’s what happens and that’s going to happen. It’s already started. I mean, right now, you know, to get Freddie Fannie debt, you’re typically, definitely not going to do better in about 60% and in some cases even less than that. Loan to value is what I’m talking about here. So, you know, you want to borrow a million dollars, you’re only going to get 500,000 or 600,000. I’m sorry, if you’re buying a million dollar property, you’re only going to get five or $600,000 loan on it if you’re going Fannie or Freddie. That’s a bad example because there are minimums a million. But you understand what I’m saying.

Joey
Yeah.

Rod
So, let me ask you this. You know, there are a lot of people that listen to this show that they’re getting motivated. They hear me telling them, you know, get off your butt, go do something, go make it happen. Come to my boot camp or go learn from somebody else, I don’t care, you know, but get up to speed. What words of wisdom would you share with someone that may be listening, that hasn’t taken action yet, knows they want something more for their family? Maybe they consider themselves in the rat race, maybe not. Maybe they’ve got a good income, maybe they’re comfortable, but they know they want more. What would you say to that person?

Joey
I would say you know just go to a seminar, right? You know, come down to Florida or wherever you’re holding the seminar. Come down for the three-day boot camp. And it’s amazing, you know, the people that you meet there it’s– I don’t know what to say.

Rod
That’s where you met your partner, that’s where you met Perry, right?

Joey
That’s right.

Rod
At my last Orlando boot camp. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Yeah, I don’t have the next live one scheduled, but you’re absolutely right. And, you know, what you’ll find in this business is that the more successful people in this business go to all of them. They go to every single boot camp or mastermind or event that they can because this business is a team sport. It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. But, yeah, that’s great advice. My next event is going to be a virtual one, but even then, you know, the networking is the biggest piece. So you should get involved in a local meetup group or a Zoom call or something like that, you know, to network.

Mark
One thing that was really interesting, Joey, you said, is you got started in 2008, right? Obviously a really, really bad real estate crash and, you know, arguably, we’re not– you know, we’re going into another contraction, recession, whatever you want to call it with real estate over the next couple of years. Tell the listeners, what was it like getting started at a time like that and what advice would you give to the newbies that are coming into real estate at a time like this?

Rod
Yeah. And did you see any opportunity or was it difficult to see the forest through the trees? I’m just curious. You know, I know there was a lot of fear, so I’m curious in your head, were you seeing it as an opportunity, or were you being really cautious because it was so fearful and banks were failing and all kinds of stuff? Just curious.

Joey
Yeah. So, you know, coming in, I was brand new, right, and I didn’t really know much, so I didn’t have that fear in me. Right? So I didn’t know you could lose your house.

Rod
You didn’t know what you didn’t know.

Joey
Yeah, absolutely. I didn’t have the guidance also. You know, I didn’t have any mentors. I really didn’t have anything. I just came in with the same kind of mindset as everyone else, hey, I’m going to buy a house and I’m going to rent it out and make some money. So I had no strategy coming in. I had really nothing. So that’s why you know a program like yours is so invaluable, you know because you get to learn everything upfront before you make that mistake.

Rod
Yeah.

Joey
You know because when I started, I had to kind of– you know I purchased a property and then had to pivot because remember I said I was going to do an add a level and ended up changing that whole strategy to do a rental.

Rod
Right.

Joey
Yeah.

Rod
And the danger there, again, is if you’ve only got two or three, four houses, if you get one bad tenant, they can destroy your cash flow on all four for the whole year. I still have, I don’t know, 20, 30 houses left, and I’m renovating one right now that a tenant was in for ten years, and it’s pushing 30 grand for this thing to bring it back. It’s very frustrating, you know. And that’s the reason I don’t do houses anymore. I still have some of these, but I would never buy another one to rent. Just too much brain damage for me. But let me ask you this. You’re like a shiny penny entrepreneur. Okay, yeah, you’re like me. I mean, you tried lots of different things, and you’re very successful in some of them. You’ve had seminars like I’ve had. You know, do you have a family? Are you married? Kids?

Joey
Yeah.

Rod
Okay. How many?

Joey
I have three kids.

Rod
Wow.

Joey
I have three kids, two girls, and a boy. So oldest is Stephanie, Victoria, and Bruce.

Rod
I’m sorry, oldest is how old?

Joey
13.

Rod
13. Okay. So they still want their dad.

Joey
Oh, yeah.

Rod
Let me ask you this. What, if anything, have you had to sacrifice to get where you are today? And do you have any strategy for making sure that you have time with the people that really matter in your life? Because, you know, I take that very seriously.

Joey
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So some of the things that I’ve had to do with– was you know, go to a lot of seminars, meetups, events, you know, things like that, and you don’t see them, especially if you leave before they get home during the day. Because during the day, you know, I’m at my office or I’m out on the road, and then you don’t see them when they come home from school. And then you have to attend these meetups at night, so you don’t see them the entire day. And then they go to bed. You know, so that’s kind of one thing you sort of regret a little bit. Just kind of not being there for them that day or so. And also, you know, I go to a lot of different events that are not necessarily local. So these sometimes three-day boot camps, things like that. The last one, I was actually very fortunate. I brought them to Siesta Key, actually, in Sarasota. We actually have some mutual friends in Siesta Key.

Rod
Oh, no kidding.

Joey
We were able to visit them for a few days.

Rod
Very nice. And were you doing an event here or were you doing some training?

Joey
No, it was for the Sarasota, the Warrior meetup.

Rod
Oh, the Warrior meetup. Oh, fantastic. For the Warrior event, you mean where we have–

Joey
Yeah.

Rod
If you don’t know, guys, we do– in fact, we’re signing a contract today to do another one, same location, but we do Warrior-only events where you know, we do deep dives on underwriting, deep dives on deal analysis. But the biggest reason we do it is so our Warriors can connect. Because you know our Warriors own upwards of 130,000 or more units that we know of, and most of them are done between Warriors like you Joey, you partnered with a Warrior to do your deal. You’re partnered with a Warrior to do your podcast. I’ve probably got two or three dozen podcasts that Warriors host, a couple of them award-winning and really people– they do a great job. And by the way, if you are interested in the Warrior program, text the word “crush” to “72345” to apply for it. Again, that’s the word “crush” to “72345” to apply. And, you know, you check us out, we check you out. We don’t take everybody. But it’s a pretty extraordinary. Would you agree it’s a pretty extraordinary program, Joey?

Joey
Absolutely. It’s really life-changing. You know the people you meet and, you know, some of the success that they’ve had in your program.

Rod
Right. Oh, that’s kind of you to say. Thank you. So let me ask you this. What do you think is the most common reason that people give up or they fail. In this or any business, okay? It doesn’t just have to be multifamily, but just– would love your opinion on that.

Joey
Yeah. So for myself, personally, I think a lot of times is really the lack of education, the lack of having mentors, and also a lack of funding. So those are three of the main things, main reasons people fail.

Rod
Okay.

Mark
Interesting. So I want to ask you because I know you’ve had you know, partners and relationships on both sides of the business, right? You mentioned single-family partners as well as multifamily. How have those partners and relationships helped you scale to a point that you may not have been able to do if you had just done everything by yourself?

Joey
I think for me, the first business partner I had was more for control. Right? It was my construction partner. So myself being more like out on the field and doing sales and things like that, my partner, he was actually more like in-house. He was more like the project manager that’s actually on [inaudible]

Rod
So you’re bringing the business in. He’s completing the business.

Joey
Correct. Yeah, he’s almost like, let’s say I’m the acquisition manager and he’s the asset manager.

Rod
Yeah, great analogy. Great analogy. That’s what we would have in the multifamily business, where you know, I’ve got regional managers that do acquisitions in different markets here. Now, we’re just organizing that right now. And then I’ve got asset management you know to manage the asset after we buy it. And I will tell you, it’s interesting you say that, because, you know, a lot of contractors, they have feast or famine because they focus on one or the other. And if you’re not bringing business in the door and keeping that funnel full, you’re going to eventually have gaps and not be able to– you know, and one of the things I teach in my boot camp is a weekly training process where you pay attention to these things, so you don’t have these lags, but yeah, that’s very interesting. By the way, guys, this business is a partnership business. And partnerships are like a marriage, easy to get into and hard to get out of. How did that partnership work out for you in the construction? Did it work out okay or did you have any seminars?

Joey
It worked out pretty good.

Rod
Okay. Good.

Joey
We were partnered for about five years, and the reason we split up was because when I had that lumber yard, that failed. And the thing I was telling you earlier was, you know, the lack of mentorship, the lack of funding, and also, you know, your own knowledge in that business.

Rod
Right. Well, you know, as it relates to multifamily, the beautiful thing about multifamily is it takes money, but it doesn’t have to be your own money. And, you know, I know you’ve got some heartburn around actually going out there and raising big chunks of money, and a lot of people do. And it’s going to be hard because you know, unfortunately, when things you know, contract, like what’s happening right now, fear, fear becomes pervasive. But you guys have heard me say this before. Just remember Warren Buffett’s famous quote, “be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful”. And there’s going to be a lot of fear coming. And it’s a time to get excited because there’ll be an opportunity and there will still be money looking for a home. I mean, I guess the stock market is at its lowest level since 2008. I may be botching that headline, but it’s close to what I just said and, you know, we won’t even talk about Crypto and FTX and that freaking debacle. But, you know, as it relates to the team sport, you know, you’ve got a great partner who we both know Perry is fantastic. You know, what sort of people do you want to align yourself with to be a success in this business?

Joey
So usually I only align myself with people with high integrity. You know, people that always tell the truth no matter how difficult things are. You know, even if we, let’s say we lose $10,000, you know, they don’t try to hide it, they’ll just tell you, hey, listen, Joe, we just lost $10,000 on this deal. This is what happened, you know. And not someone who, again, you know, tries to kind of sugarcoat it.

Rod
Yeah, love it. That’s our number one core value is integrity. We do what’s right, even if it hurts, period. Great answer. By the way, guys, if you are getting into a partnership, I’ve got a great resource, a list of questions you can ask before you get into a partnership. All the hard questions you need to ask upfront because you get caught up in the emotion. If you want that, go to “RodsLinks.com”, “RodsLinks.com”. And it’s one of the free books and the resources there. I usually like to ask about a failure, but you had that construction business that failed. Any setbacks or– that’s all right, we don’t have to go into that because you already talked. I don’t need to bring hash up more pain. What markets are you looking for multifamily in? Do you have some targeted markets?

Rod
Yeah. So Dallas is a market where we’re looking in.

Rod
Yeah.

Joey
You know, we’re looking heavily in Dallas. We’re actually working on a second deal in Dallas right now.

Rod
Oh, fantastic.

Joey
Yeah.

Rod
Fantastic. Good job. That’s awesome. Yeah, we’ve got several assets in Dallas. Love that market. And it keeps just getting great reviews, you know, all the press and everything about it and the jobs going in there and everything else. Yeah. Love that market. Okay. And that’s the thing, guys. When you’re doing this business, you want to hone in on a market. You want to become really good at a specific market so you can tell if the rents are out of line or if there’s opportunity there and you’ve got connections there and so on and so forth. That’s one of the things I teach in the boot camp, is just you know, really become an expert in a particular market. And, yeah. Let me just think if there’s something else I want to ask you. Well, yeah, here’s a good question. You know, you’re a very driven guy. What is your definition of success? How do you define it?

Joey
Yeah, I think for me, success is really having freedom. It’s not about having the fancy cars, the big house. I’d love to have those, too, but you know freedom to kind of do what you want. Like, if you feel tired, you don’t want to work today, you can take the day off, you know. If you want to travel somewhere and you want to take your family, hey, let’s– I don’t know, let’s go to Japan or something for a few weeks.

Rod
I’m going there in March for two weeks. Yeah, I’m going there, March.

Joey
Oh, I’m so jealous.

Rod
Yeah, yeah, but no, I agree with you completely. It’s– in fact, I’m doing a little too much traveling this year, but I– you know, you get my age, you start looking at life through this lifestyle filter instead of just you know, go out and knock it out of the park every day. You know, what actions do you think a listener to this podcast should take today and implement you know, to get started on this journey? I mean, maybe you already answered it. You said get a mentor and get on. I’m not fishing for you to say go to Rod’s boot camp or anything, but you know.

Joey
I think I already said that too.

Rod
If there’s anything other than– yeah, thank you. If there’s anything other than that you know, that comes to mind, you know, would love to hear it.

Joey
Yeah, definitely. I think, you know, just taking action.

Rod
Yeah.

Joey
Just really doing anything, you know, start doing some research, right? That’s an action as well. Start setting some goals. Like, what do you want to do in 2023? I had a post in one of my groups and you know, it was what are your goals for 2023? And, you know, anytime somebody would post say, hey, I want to get started in real estate, I would ask them, you know, what do you mean? Be more specific. How do you want to get started in real estate? Do you want to buy a single-family house or do you want to buy 200 units? What does get started mean?

Rod
Yeah, you know, because goals have to be specific and measurable. You know, it’s not like I’m going to lose some weight. No, I’m going to lose ten freaking pounds by March 1st and feel great about it. That’s the goal. That’s specific. By the way, I just did my goal-setting workshop literally on January 2nd, on Monday of this week, and it’s being loaded. It will be at “RodsLinks.com” as well. It’s free to download, to watch. It’s still on my Rod Khleif Official Facebook page, but there’s a guide you can download. I’m not going to try to sell you anything. You know, what’s sad is people spend more time planning a Christmas event than they do designing their lives. And goals are so important, you know. I do it every year. I just literally just did it. It hasn’t been edited yet, but if you go to Rod Khleif Official Facebook page, it’s there. And, you know, if you haven’t done your goals, you know, in six months, get your butt over there and help me– let me guide you through it. I’ll get you juiced, you’ll get clear on what you want. Because you know, when the soup really starts hitting the fan here, there’s going to be a lot of fear. And if you get sucked into that and you’re focused on that instead of focused on what you want, whatever you focus on gets bigger, positive or negative. So it’s super important that you have your roadmap out there and your goals in your mind’s eye, so that’s what you go after and you don’t get sucked into the fear. Well, listen, Joey, I really appreciate you coming on the show. Brother, great to see you and, you know, I’m sure you’re going to do great things in 2023. You are a driven guy and I appreciate you coming on, sharing some wisdom, my friend.

Joey
Rod, thank you so much. I’m so humbled and so appreciative of you having on your show.

Rod
No, it’s absolutely my pleasure. We’ll need to circle back and have you back on again. Yeah.

Mark
Thanks, Joey.

Rod
All right. Thanks, Mark. All right, Mark’s got some back feed on his mic. Yeah, but anyway, all right, guys, take care. It’s good to see you. Happy new year. We’ll talk to you later. Thanks, guys.

Outro
Rod, I know a lot of our listeners are wanting to take their multifamily investing business to the next level. Now, I know you’ve been hard at work helping our Warrior students do just that using our “ACT” methodology, which is Awareness, Close, and Transform. Can you explain to the listeners how they can get our help?

Rod
You bet. Guys, we’ve been going non-stop for three years building an amazing community of like-minded people, and our coaching students which we call our Warriors have had extraordinary results. They’ve purchased thousands and thousands of units and last year we did over 1,000 units with our students. And we’re looking to grow this group and take it to the next level. We’re looking for people who want to follow a proven framework that’s really step by step and then leverage our systems and network to raise equity, to find and close deals, and to build partnerships nationwide. Now, our Warrior community is finding success in any market cycle. So if you’re interested in finding out more about how you can become more of our incredible network and take advantage of the incredible opportunities that are coming very soon, apply to work with us at “MentorWithRod.com” or text the word “CRUSH” to “72345” and we’ll set up a call so you can check us out and we can check you out. Again, to apply, text “CRUSH” to “72345”.