Nitin John Abraham and Anna Marie Reiners are experienced real estate investors specializing in multifamily and commercial properties across Missouri, Kansas, and California. Since joining Rod’s Warrior Group in September 2023, they’ve been involved in 102 multifamily units, a 45,000-square-foot industrial GP deal, an 8-key boutique hotel JV, and a 120,000-square-foot commercial LP deal. Anna Marie, an Airbnb Superhost, focuses on rental management, while Nitin, a construction manager and Principal at DeBrine Associates, brings expertise in project management. Anna Marie is also a school psychologist and certified behavioral analyst.
Here’s some of the topics we covered:
- How The Team Scored a 92-Unit Deal with the Warrior Group
- The Key Role John Played in Sealing the Deal
- Driving The Neighborhood To See The State of The Market
- Genius Value Add Strategies that Transformed the Property
- Teamwork That Made the Deal Happen in the Warrior Group
- Tackling Tenant Troubles and Property Challenges Head-On
- The 2-Unit Fire Disaster and How The Team Handled It
- Holding Property Management Companies Accountable
- The Must-Hear Advice Every New Investor Needs to Take Action Now
If you’d like to apply to the warrior program and do deals with other rockstars in this business: Text crush to 72345 and we’ll be speaking soon.
Full Transcript Below
00:00:29:00 – 00:00:45:13
Rod
Welcome back to Multifamily Rockstars. So as you guys know, these are the episodes where we deep dive into our guest deals and we give you some practical and actionable items for getting started and doing your first deal, even if you’re brand new to the multifamily arena here. And I’ve got my co-host Mark Nagy with me here, as usual.
00:00:45:14 – 00:00:56:01
Mark
Going on rod, I’m especially excited for this one because I got one of my business partners here on a deal. So I think we can get a little bit more granular and detail on some of the management stuff, because I know he’s really good at that, so I’m excited to get it.
00:00:56:01 – 00:01:08:06
Rod
Love it, love it, love it. We’re going to deep dive on the deal then. So we’ve got John Abraham who I understand just discovered is your partner. He’s also a warrior. Which is really cool. So John welcome brother.
00:01:08:11 – 00:01:18:03
John
Oh, thank you for having me. Rod and Mark. Very excited to be here. I’ve been listening to your podcast for a long time. Never thought I’d get to be on it. So, you know, taking action pays up.
00:01:18:05 – 00:01:34:13
Rod
Yes it does, yes it does. You know, it’s funny, I just interviewed someone, for a previous interview, Kyle Stephenson, and he told me he used to listen to it and say, one day I’m going to be on that podcast. You just made the declaration and boom, you know, that’s how that’s how life works when you decide something like that.
00:01:34:15 – 00:01:48:10
Rod
Well, welcome, my friend. Why don’t you, talk a little bit about who you are? Why you where you came from? You know, as a core, you know, previous employment or even maybe still current employment to, why multifamily?
00:01:48:12 – 00:02:14:00
John
Yeah, absolutely. So much like your story. I’m an immigrant. Came here about 25 years ago. Two bags, one way ticket. Came to Texas A&M to go to grad school. That translated into a job in large scale construction in California. And, brought me to Oakland, California. Been here for like about 20, 20 plus years in Oakland, work in, construction consulting.
00:02:14:00 – 00:02:36:12
John
So I’m a partner in a consulting company and a run consulting for large technical construction. And always, you know, coming from India, which is where I’m from, real estate’s a big thing, you know, it’s one of the goals in life, you know, go to school, get a job, buy a house. Right. Building assets. That’s something that’s deeply ingrained in us.
00:02:36:14 – 00:02:56:23
John
And something my father has done. Build assets, you know. And so buying that first house, I, I time the market, bought it at the bottom of the market here in 0809. And then it was always like, what are we going to do next? My leap into real estate investing and actually taking action, as you say, got to take action, was spurred by my wife.
00:02:57:00 – 00:03:10:16
John
She was the one like, well, what’s what talking about these dreams, let’s go get it. And that’s what set us off on our journey. And, she’s, really been instrumental in that success and why we have jumped into it. So.
00:03:10:18 – 00:03:23:19
Rod
Then get her on and you kick your ass off, and let’s let’s put her on. I’m just kidding. Love it. Well, let’s let’s talk about that. The deal that you guys are in on together. Where is it at? What is it? Where? How’d you find it?
00:03:23:21 – 00:03:45:03
John
So it’s a 92 unit in Wichita, Kansas. And we found it. I mean, I got into it purely because of networking in the warrior community. I mean, the community is awesome. Every event I’ve been to have met great people. And just by networking and talking to people, telling people where I currently invest in where our assets are, that’s why I brought it to me.
00:03:45:03 – 00:04:02:21
John
One of your rock stars, Brad Turner, called me, said, hey, John, I know you work in Kansas and Missouri and we got a deal. Are you interested? I know you know the market. That’s what got us in. So that’s that powered networking and telling people what you do and what you want to do. That got me into that deal.
00:04:02:22 – 00:04:12:16
Mark
So I know you’ve obviously been instrumental in the asset management, which we’re going to get to in a couple of minutes, but what was the kind of initial role that you played to to get yourself into this big deal here?
00:04:12:18 – 00:04:32:22
John
Yeah, absolutely. And brought me the deal. You know, I’m one of those people who wants to be involved in every aspect or learn about every aspect of the whole syndication deal. The first thing I do is underwriting, you know, in my core career, you know, my W-2 job, I do deal with lots of dollars and numbers, and I bring that to underwriting.
00:04:32:22 – 00:04:53:04
John
I mean, every deal you underwrite, you get a little bit better, you learn a little bit something. So first thing I told brothers, well, sent me the underwriting, right. He sent me the underwriting and I underwrote it. And we went back and forth and back and forth analyzing every line item. When people try to decrease expenses, I really question it, right.
00:04:53:06 – 00:05:24:07
John
You know, we all know insurance and taxes. They all go up. So we spent a lot of time underwriting and talking to partners. And then that’s that’s why that was the first thing we did with, you know, is underwrite it. The second thing I did went out to the asset, you know, and so I try to stay involved in every component of the, of the deal because I think it’s important to learn everything, even if you’re hyper focused on one thing, learn it all.
00:05:24:09 – 00:05:41:21
Mark
I know you were one like you said. You were one of the ones that walked this deal early on, and this was an on market deal, I believe, through a broker, if my memory serves me correctly. What did you like about the deal, when you initially walked it? And I know there’s some traditional things, but what did you like about it that said, hey, this is potentially a good deal.
00:05:41:23 – 00:05:44:02
John
You know, I went there, so. Oh, by.
00:05:44:02 – 00:05:46:23
Rod
The way, what it what what and where is it?
00:05:47:00 – 00:05:49:21
John
It’s 92 units in Wichita, Kansas.
00:05:49:23 – 00:05:50:21
Rod
Got it. Okay.
00:05:50:22 – 00:06:12:00
John
Right. And I went there. So we were at the Warriors only event in in April last year. Right. And hey man power another great warrior. He got up there and said guys if you’re getting into a deal you best walk it yourself. Don’t get into the I was like hey we’re here. So we took a plane went went out there and walked it, right.
00:06:12:01 – 00:06:38:13
John
I was like, got to do it. Got my thing is if you don’t listen to advice from people who have done something, then you do yourself a disservice. Learn from other people’s experience and mistakes. Right. What I liked Mark, I went there my wife and I went there. We drove the entire neighborhood. We drove in every direction half a mile and a lot of the houses, everything was pretty really well-maintained, right?
00:06:38:13 – 00:07:01:06
John
Even around in the neighborhood. And the community was full. The I mean, you can tell from the kind of cars there are and you can kind of get a gauge for what the neighborhood in the area was like. And I just liked that everything was full and there was apartments, around it. And I saw that this, this apartment needed a little bit work, but of work.
00:07:01:08 – 00:07:16:16
John
But I could tell it had potential just from looking at what was around there. And I was like, okay, this is going to be good, right? And just looking at where the rents were and doing a little bit of research, user rent Tom into different tools and like, okay, rents in the nine hundreds and we’re at 697 okay.
00:07:16:18 – 00:07:18:20
John
There’s potential. Right.
00:07:18:22 – 00:07:31:21
Rod
So that’s that’s significant potential 200 and plus bump is is good really good. Yeah. Yeah. Your note said the rents were at 691 and then and target was 935. So that’s a hell of a bump.
00:07:31:23 – 00:07:45:16
Mark
Yeah. Well I’ll even say above and beyond that we’ve been getting better than that. We’ve been getting 975. We’ve been getting 995. We’ve even been getting over $1,000 for a couple of the units where we have installed new cabinets and countertops and things like that. So we’re even getting better on some of.
00:07:45:18 – 00:07:55:24
Rod
What are you. So let me ask you this. What do you think the, the the cap rate? For that asset is right now, just out of curiosity, seven.
00:07:56:01 – 00:07:56:21
John
Yeah about seven.
00:07:57:02 – 00:08:23:19
Rod
Probably. Okay. Hold on. Times 12 times 92. So I’m calculating what that increase is going to be. So if you take it’s about $300 a month. If you’re at 995 on a 92 unit, an annualized is $335,000 increase. If you hit that 9.95. And what do you say, a cap rate of seven. You divide that. You divide that by a 7% cap rate.
00:08:23:22 – 00:08:37:09
Rod
That is a $4.8 million increase in value. Boom, baby. That’s freaking awesome, boys. That’s freaking awesome. I love it. So. So what are you doing to improve that place, John?
00:08:37:11 – 00:08:58:21
John
So so we’re we’re doing, exterior upgrades and interior interior upgrades. So the exterior, the things that we had to do so far was the decks and the stairs. They were in really bad condition. So we’ve redone all of the stairways and entry stairways. We’ve done some of the decks that had to be done. We have.
00:08:58:23 – 00:09:03:20
Rod
By the way, sorry, sorry to interrupt. How much was your total CapEx budget for this asset?
00:09:03:22 – 00:09:05:05
John
$1 million.
00:09:05:07 – 00:09:09:23
Rod
Okay. So 1 million to do the steps and the things you’re describing here. Okay.
00:09:10:00 – 00:09:38:04
John
All right. Yep. So we’ve done stairs, decks, parking lot striping. One of the biggest things that struck me when I drove the asset was, you know, we have three driveways to the asset right in front of the driveway. The main driveway is these dumpsters. Everybody’s putting their trash there. I’m like, now this is just a complete eyesore. So we found three spots towards the back of the back of the development, poured new concrete pads, moved the dumpsters away.
00:09:38:06 – 00:09:39:04
John
That’s nice.
00:09:39:06 – 00:09:55:23
Rod
By the way, let me give you a little. Let me give you a little ninja trick. It’s very often you can get a towing company to do the painting on a parking lot. We did that on a San Antonio asset where they striped it and numbered it. So we were able to charge people to park in front of their units.
00:09:56:00 – 00:10:12:01
Rod
And it was at that time it was a four cap. It was a, $800,000 increase in value for paint it, for letting someone else paint the parking lot and towing company, because then they then, you know, if there’s a broken down car, they tow it. They make a lot of money, so they’ll pay to stripe it, just FYI.
00:10:12:03 – 00:10:17:21
Rod
All right. So. So you did the parking lot. What else did you do? Decks and stairs, dumpsters.
00:10:17:23 – 00:10:40:05
John
The dumpsters. We tore down the fence in the front that was completely falling apart. We’ve trimmed a lot of the trees. We’ve added parking lot lighting so people can walk to their cars at night. We’ve added new lights at all the decks, so we’ve done a lot of work on the outside. We do have some, painting and siding repair that will come up in the spring because the weather’s not good right now.
00:10:40:05 – 00:10:42:10
Rod
So what about the interiors?
00:10:42:12 – 00:11:07:03
John
Yeah, interiors. We have sort of three different types of turns. We have just the just a regular turn, which is just paint and carpet. We have a bigger turn where we upgrade all of the fixtures, lights, fans, redo the countertops, so forth. And then we have some units that are complete turns with, with, new vanities, new mirrors, all full, full chrome package.
00:11:07:05 – 00:11:18:06
John
In terms of all of the lights, door, door hinges, locks, everything and then new cabinets and countertops. So we’ve, we’ve, we’ve done them in three different sort of packages.
00:11:18:06 – 00:11:19:02
Rod
Gotcha. Yeah.
00:11:19:08 – 00:11:45:11
Mark
We’ve also done things I, you mentioned, I don’t know if you mentioned lighting. It was super dark there at night beforehand. So the lighting that we’re installing is an instant curb appeal as well. Brand new website. We noticed none of the properties around had good websites. They were all kind of crappy. And I want to lead this into you, John, because I know you mentioned the fences and things like that in terms of like, I know rod, you talked about this all the time, why the Warriors work so well and partners together.
00:11:45:13 – 00:12:09:19
Mark
I’ve noticed this on this particular asset that everybody has kind of gone above and beyond to play to like play an additional role to help with this asset. So like Chris and Jermaine, our other partners on this deal, they went out there and actually tore down the fence themselves to to save some money. Jermaine. He went in and installed electrical outlets on I don’t know what was it, 60 units or something like that to save money.
00:12:09:23 – 00:12:27:16
John
He did. So he had one of the items from the lender was GFI is at the sinks, right? So they weren’t GFI. He did all 92. Well, he did 91 units of GFI as one tenant wouldn’t let him get in. So we did that later. But he was he went out spend a week, and he did them all.
00:12:27:18 – 00:12:35:16
John
So our partners have been great. You know, we’re all trying to do our part to make it a great investment for all our investors.
00:12:35:18 – 00:12:52:14
Mark
And I want to take this back to you, John, because one thing that you have been really, really good at is the details. You’ve put together a CapEx spreadsheet that is awesome. It’s all color coded with all the different things. And where we’re at on the budget. You went out there to the property recently and took pictures and super, super detailed.
00:12:52:18 – 00:13:05:07
Mark
And I wanted to ask, where did you develop that skill set and super power? Was it from a previous job? Did you learn that from the warrior program? Where did you learn to like how to add value into a team like that?
00:13:05:09 – 00:13:29:05
John
So yeah, my current, you know, my day job are construction, right? I, I work for a lot of developers, right. And a lot so I tackle our real estate multifamily like I do working for developer. Everything’s about breaking things down into actionable chunks, different categories, and then detailing it out. Right. So that report I wrote, I took the exterior and wrote all my observations.
00:13:29:05 – 00:13:51:12
John
I’ve take the interior, write my observations, put pictures to illustrate what the issues are or how we handle those. So it’s really comes from my day job, and I’ve been really been able to bring all of those skills here because it pictures painted a worth a thousand words. Right. And for, for our team that’s spread all over for us to efficiently see everything.
00:13:51:14 – 00:14:03:07
John
Those pictures that I put together in the report really illustrate what’s going on. And, yeah, it’s just kind of using the skills of developed over the last 20 years to kind of help our team be successful.
00:14:03:09 – 00:14:28:12
Rod
That’s awesome. And I will tell you, those of you listening, I promise you, you have skills you can bring into this business as well. And even if it’s just your ability to talk to people, it’s maybe some sales ability, maybe some previous construction experience, you know, even management experience of any kind, you can asset management, the asset, you know, if you, if you if you like to communicate, you can be building relationships with, with brokers and investors and sellers.
00:14:28:14 – 00:14:50:01
Rod
If you if you love the analytics, you can help with the underwriting. There’s just lots of different hats you can wear here. Now, if you’re considering possibly getting some guidance with this so you can experience the life you’re wanting this year rather than later. Or maybe you just thought, you know, you want to become more effective in how you go about this whole real estate endeavor that you’re listening to this podcast for a reason.
00:14:50:03 – 00:15:08:16
Rod
Text the word crush to 72345 to see if the warrior program might be able to help you overcome that. You know, any challenges that you might be facing to get into this business and really to, you know, what we do in the warrior program is give you the map, we give you the blueprint, so that, you can accomplish what you want with lifetime cash flow.
00:15:08:16 – 00:15:13:12
Rod
That’s the name of the podcast. How’s the warrior experience been so far for you, John?
00:15:13:14 – 00:15:42:09
John
The warrior experience has been phenomenal. I can’t thank you enough for beating the the network and the platform and and making it so wonderful and giving, I’ve met phenomenal people. I’ve met people who have done amazingly well, like great deals. I’ve met people who are starting, but everybody’s giving, everybody’s willing to talk and share the experience. And so it’s phenomenal.
00:15:42:11 – 00:15:48:19
John
You’ve created a culture in the group of giving, and that is just, irreplaceable.
00:15:48:21 – 00:16:09:04
Mark
So let’s talk about some of the challenges, John, because it obviously this deal, it hasn’t been Daisy’s and Roses since the beginning, obviously. And I’ll let you get into it. I’m not going to talk about what have been some of the challenges with, the tenants and the property in general. And how we’ve kind of overcome those over the past, what, eight months we’ve owned this thing?
00:16:09:06 – 00:16:30:13
John
Yeah, yeah. You know, some of the challenges is, you know, a couple of the things that we’ve tried to do has cost, cost us more money, right, than than we anticipated. But that’s we’re really working collaboratively as a team and really knowing where our numbers are helps us plan out the execution of our business plan. Right. So and that’s going to happen.
00:16:30:13 – 00:16:52:18
John
It’s bound to happen in spite of all the due diligence you do, you’re going to find some things that just, you know, are going to trip you up. You always got to have a contingency in your CapEx, right? Let’s say we have $1 million. Do you want to save that 10% or 100,000 of that, or as like a contingency, don’t plan to spend it all because things will happen.
00:16:52:20 – 00:17:16:18
John
Our, our asset managers and our team, you know, primarily Chris, Chris and Jermaine, they’re phenomenal. I’m learning so much from them on a day to day basis or I they question and as well as you Mark, we always questioning why are we spending that extra 20 bucks. You don’t need to right. I mean and that’s great because there’s a team holding everybody accountable and asking questions really helps drive optimal performance for the asset for us.
00:17:16:20 – 00:17:30:14
Mark
So that’s one thing I’m good at. And Ron knows this as well as conflicts doesn’t bother me. And I’m I don’t mind getting into it with the property managers if we need to. But some other things you forgot about. We had a small fire.
00:17:30:16 – 00:17:31:22
John
Yeah.
00:17:31:24 – 00:17:38:07
Mark
Somebody that didn’t even live there had a cigaret, and, thankfully only burned two units. We had a flood unit.
00:17:38:07 – 00:17:40:05
John
Flood? Yeah, we had a flood.
00:17:40:08 – 00:17:49:00
Mark
We have had two people that have died in our units. We we have. Wow. Wasn’t there someone who had, like, a bunch of animals or something like that? We had to evacuate.
00:17:49:02 – 00:18:07:21
John
We had a person who was, basically rebuilding engines. And in his bedroom, he was, bringing parts in through the window. The whole house was covered in grease. Yeah. All kinds of unique things that we get to see. You know, they had to killed the house so many times to get all that grease, grease stains out.
00:18:07:23 – 00:18:32:16
John
But, I think we’ve also been good about finding a good property management team. They’re they’re skilled. And and I think a big part of them being skilled is like, we’ve done a really good job of holding them accountable and giving them a format in which to send us updates every week. So we’ve built a cadence over the last six months of really setting how we want to operate the asset and push our property management team.
00:18:32:18 – 00:18:58:19
Rod
Fantastic. Fantastic job. I loved everything you just said. And that’s that’s so that’s so necessary because, you know, property management companies, you know, they need to be held accountable. That’s that’s called asset management guys. And by the way he said kills. Kills is a is something you put on fire. Damage is something you put on grease and other things that you put on before you paint because, it, it basically blocks pretty much blocks everything.
00:18:58:21 – 00:19:14:18
Rod
I’ve, I’ve had to use it on fire damage if you, if you didn’t understand what that meant. But no, I’m really impressed with what you just said. So let me ask you this. You know, we have a lot of listeners that know they should do something. No, they listen to the show sometimes. You know, I’ve had warriors come on that.
00:19:14:18 – 00:19:32:00
Rod
Yeah. I’ve listened to you for four years. I’m like, why are they held in? You sign up a year, you know, three and a half years ago. So you’d be that much further ahead. Well tell me, talk about maybe an action item or two that, a listener could learn from. Or do it. Start. Do it.
00:19:32:06 – 00:19:38:19
Rod
Start learning immediately to, you know, forward themselves in this business.
00:19:38:21 – 00:20:00:05
John
Well, hey everybody who who listens and is sitting on the sideline, I would say first thing, come to the virtual bootcamp or come to the in-person boot camp because there’s, you know, you cannot start unless you take action. Take action now, don’t wait to learn everything because you’re never going to learn everything you know. Learn on the job.
00:20:00:07 – 00:20:03:02
John
You know, learn by getting involved. Learn back. Well, I.
00:20:03:06 – 00:20:18:16
Rod
I appreciate I appreciate that shout out. That actually wasn’t what I was looking for. You know, you had previously. Thank you. Though you had previously mentioned communication. Could you elaborate on on someone enhancing their ability to communicate, for example?
00:20:18:18 – 00:20:45:06
John
Yeah. I think you got it. You got to be able to reach out to people in network and, or people, anybody in real estate go to meetups. There’s tons of meetups in every, every city. You go to meetup.com and look for those, right? Start getting comfortable talking to people. Just any conversation. I talk, I talk about real estate in every conversation to everybody.
00:20:45:06 – 00:20:54:04
John
It may be about cars, but it ends up at real estate, right? And just expand your network and just take action.
00:20:54:06 – 00:21:15:22
Rod
I love it. So let me ask you this, John. What is what was your why for getting into multifamily? And has it evolved since you’ve, you know, since you’ve, experienced it. And, you know, I have obviously everybody wants freedom. They want money. But what how do you speak to speak to that? So to what I just said, give me your perspective on what I just said.
00:21:15:24 – 00:21:36:06
John
Yeah. Absolutely. Right. So, you know, it. The answer’s a little long winded, but I’ll let me summarize it this way. You know, I came came to America. You know, it’s a land where everything’s possible and dreams come true. But dreams come true because of the people around you and the people you build your lives with. You know, I didn’t know anybody, right?
00:21:36:06 – 00:22:04:04
John
I didn’t know anybody. And, my life went to construction and real estate. But if you’re going to multifamily because just for financial freedom, that’s not the only thing there is. There’s a whole community. There are people who are giving. There’s there’s learning, there’s wisdom, there’s experience. There’s so much more that multifamily gives you than just financial freedom.
00:22:04:04 – 00:22:18:22
John
And you can focus on those things. The money will come right. Focus on the people and relationships. Then the money will come. So that that’s my why? Because people have made me successful or fulfilled.
00:22:18:24 – 00:22:36:08
Rod
That’s a that’s a great answer. You know, it it, Tony Robbins has a saying called The Science of Achievement versus the Art of fulfillment, Achievements of science. If you want to learn multifamily text crush to seven, two, three, 4 or 5, we’ll give you the map. You just got to go do it, okay. We’ll hold you accountable.
00:22:36:10 – 00:23:04:22
Rod
But fulfillment in art and fulfillment is finding out what juices you. And you’re a people person. Obviously, John. And and and and bringing that into the equation, you know, either through charitable work or ideally, like you said here through this multifamily game, finding fulfillment in and turning around a community, you know, enhancing our community, making it safer and affordable and more beautiful and, and all that, is, is very fulfilling.
00:23:04:22 – 00:23:22:00
Rod
And, you know, and that’s just one example of the fulfillment. You can have the relationships you build, you know, not even if you don’t do it in the warrior program. It’s just the relationship build in this business are fantastic. You know, they’re lifelong friendships in many cases. So, yeah, I really appreciate you bringing that up.
00:23:22:02 – 00:23:38:22
Mark
I’ll even just add in one more thing as well. Even just on this property, right? Yes. We’ve bumped rents, you know, $300 almost. But the feedback we’ve gotten from the tenants, people have come to us thanking us for getting the bad tenants out and cleaning up the property and and doing all those things. Many people have come to us saying thank you for doing that.
00:23:38:22 – 00:23:41:04
Mark
And that’s that’s a huge part of it as well.
00:23:41:06 – 00:23:59:18
Rod
Sure, it is very gratifying. So, you know, one of the things we like to talk about, John, is, is hot topics in the business right now. And, you know, what do you think, in your view, are you hearing out there as a hot topic that’s being discussed a lot as it relates to the multifamily environment?
00:23:59:20 – 00:24:27:02
John
Yep. You know, a lot of discussion about great opportunity forthcoming. Right. So to leverage that great opportunity, I’ve been really leaning into building deeper connections with with the broker community. I actually when I go to Kansas City and Missouri or Kansas of Missouri, I go visit the brokers, I, I go go see them, I, we go to lunch together, buy them lunch, and they’re like, hey, nobody even barely calls us back.
00:24:27:02 – 00:24:49:23
John
So one of my things that I do and I do this with all people, people call me a, call them back, and you want to position yourself in the right spot for these great opportunities. So I’m working really hard to get in the right spot to take advantage of these great opportunities that are forthcoming. And I and I can already see, you know, I see just on mailing lists of great deals coming in, bank owned properties and stuff.
00:24:49:23 – 00:24:58:24
John
So, heating, the heating, the, discussions and conversations from experts and just biting my time.
00:24:59:01 – 00:25:11:03
Rod
Yeah. No, they’re coming for sure. There are a lot of operators in big trouble. A lot of deals are in trouble. And, and, you know, they’re they’re the proverbial, you know, what’s going to be hitting the fan here fairly quickly.
00:25:11:05 – 00:25:16:11
Mark
So, John, for people that like your story, want to reach out, chat, real estate, whatever, where can they reach you?
00:25:16:13 – 00:25:30:04
John
Yeah, they can, reach me on Facebook at John Abraham or at Instagram, preferably at Knitting Vest that is knit in vest. That’s my Instagram handle. And, I’ll get back to you.
00:25:30:06 – 00:25:42:23
Rod
Fantastic. Well, listen, brother, I it’s great to see you and, great job on that deal. What a screaming deal to both of you guys. Great job. And, we’ll, I’m sure we’ll see you in Sarasota here in just, just a short while.
00:25:43:00 – 00:25:48:20
John
Yeah. Thank you for having me. My bags are packed, and, my pick is the book, and I’ll see you there in, shortly.
00:25:48:22 – 00:25:52:02
Rod
All right. Sounds good. Mark. I’ll see you later, buddy. Thanks. Thanks.
