Ep #729

Leaving A W2 Job After Joining The Warriors

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Robert recently left his W-2 job largely due to success from what he’s learned from The Warrior Program and people I’ve met through the program. Robert started out in retail but quickly worked his way through 800+ doors in the multifamily real estate and self storage space.

Here’s some of the topics we covered:

  • Moving From Retail To Real Estate
  • How To Take The Jump From Single To Multi Family Real Estate
  • First Goals When Getting Into Multifamily
  • Relationship Building In Real Estate
  • The Super Hot Market That Is Coming

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Intro
Hi. My name is Rod Khleif, and I’m the host of “The Lifetime Cash Flow Through Real Estate Investing” podcast. And every week, I interview Multifamily Rock Stars, and we talk about how they built incredible wealth for themselves and their families through multifamily properties. So hit the “Like” and “Subscribe” buttons to get notified every Monday when a new episode comes out. Let’s get to it.

Rod
Welcome back to Multifamily Rock Star. So, as you know, this is where we interview people that are just flat-out crushing it in this business and we show you guys the inside scoop into how multifamily investors are creating massive success in their businesses and in their lives. And as always, I’ve got my co-host, who’s the director of our massive action team for my Warrior Mentorship group. Mark Nagy on the call. Mark, what’s up, buddy? What’s exciting?

Mark
I’m doing really great, but probably not as excited as you since you’re going to Europe next week, right?

Rod
Yeah, like less than a week, which is why I’m back to back. I had no life right now.

Mark
Yeah.

Rod
But it’s okay. I know I’m not going to get any sympathy.

Mark
No.

Rod
Yeah, it’s a long one, too, 18 days. So it’s going to be real, I’m sure, I’ll get lots of emails and crap while I’m there, but still glad to be leaving. Yeah, it’s kind of cool. We’re going to Stockholm, and I don’t know if you know, there’s this ship there, museum, where it’s like a pirate ship, but it sank within 18 minutes of launch, like, I don’t know, what, 200 years ago. It’s got two rows of cannons, and because the water is brackish, it’s perfectly preserved, and it’s the coolest museum ever.

Mark
Wow.

Rod
They pulled it out of the water, I don’t know, about 30 years ago, and they’ve been restoring it, and it’s called Vasa. So if you’re listening and you want to check it out, check out Vasa. Vasa Museum in Stockholm. I saw it years ago, and I’m really excited to show it to Tiffy because it’s just, you know, really cool. But anyway, we have an awesome show for you today. I’m excited about today’s interview because it’s a friend who lives here locally, been in the Warrior program since 2019, I think, and his name is Rob Williams. And Rob has been involved in 850 multifamily units now, but he’s really killing in self-storage as well. And I know he’s done a lot of that with another Warrior. He’s been in– so far in 100,000 sqft storage, and I know they’ve got other stuff under contract, but what’s really awesome is he actually left his W-2, you know, at the end of last year because of the success that he’s had in our program and the people he’s met in our program. And, so, it’s really a real treat to see just how successful you’ve been here, brother, and I’m just so pleased to have you on the show. So welcome to our show, Rob.

Robert
Thanks, Rod. It’s great to see you.

Rod
Thank you. Thank you. So why don’t you just take a second– I believe– you know, I know you retired– well, tell your story. I don’t want to tell your story. Tell a little bit about, you know, your transition from what you did before, maybe, you know, what little real estate maybe you did before you joined our program because I think you did some single-family stuff and just how it all transpired. If you could just give us a little rundown.

Robert
Sure. So I spent 28 years in corporate retail, in retail management and, you know, along the way just kind of always had in the back of my mind wanting to do some real estate investing. You know, my mom was in real estate sales, and I always– you know, kind of had an interest in what she was doing, but not necessarily wanting to be a realtor. When we moved to Florida, I met a couple of people who own several single-family properties, and I kind of asked them a lot of questions and realized that you know, the ownership portion is where I want it, where I want it to be. So that kind of led to the start of single-family, few single-family, and then just kind of add it to that as we went. That’s how I got started in real estate.

Rod
Okay. And, so, I think we initially met at a Tampa meet-up, is that right? Can you talk about that progression?

Robert
That’s correct. So, I was driving a lot of hours for my W-2, you know, generally spending between five and six hours a day in the vehicle. So a lot of that time when I wasn’t on the phone was listening to podcasts. And you spend that much time listening to a lot of podcasts. And since, you know, digging through the real estate and came across your podcast and really liked it, started listening to it a lot, listened to it for quite a while and never– for some reason, never heard or didn’t hear you say that you lived in the area. And then one day, I got an email about a meet-up coming up and you were going to be the guest speaker. So, well, I definitely have to go to that, see who this person that I’ve been listening to all this time. And you were there. You gave a nice talk about your background and, you know, how you got started, everything you’ve gone through in your progression in real estate, and what led you to multifamily and told all the benefits of multifamily. And you mentioned your boot camp that you had coming up. And unfortunately, at the time, I already had a vacation booked during that time we were going to be out of the country. And, so I made sure that I kept listening so I knew when the next boot camp was coming up and it happened to be Atlanta. And that’s what drove me to Atlanta.

Rod
No kidding. Wow. And the rest is history. Well, you know, what’s interesting, that Atlanta boot camp was my third boot camp ever. That was the third one I ever did. I’m fairly certain I’ve got that trajectory right because I did two in Tampa and then I did Atlanta. But anyway, well, listen, wow, you’ve accomplished a lot since then, my friend. And, you know, I had no idea. I lose track about, you know, the success of our students because they just– can’t keep up because you know, like we have these little pop-ups at my– you know, these pop-up banners at our events, and we’ll say, okay, so this is, you know, so and so, and they have 500 units and we’ll have them to scratch out with a marker and say, okay, they’re up to 1200 now. And you’ll see scratches out two or three times because it’s moving so fast. And it’s just so freaking rewarding for me to see it. I was saying, I think our Warriors are really pushing 80 to 90,000 units owned now, and I’ve only been teaching for, what, maybe five years, and I’m just so freaking proud of that. And so it’s such a treat to see you, especially because I know what a great guy you are and to see just how successful you’ve been, my friend. Really proud of you, man.

Robert
Well, thank you. You should be proud of it. You’ve put together, you know, a really great program and a really great thing that has really brought a lot of people together. And it would have never met– no way any [inaudible] a lot of these people would never meet otherwise.

Rod
Yeah. Thank you, bud. Thanks.

Mark
I wanted to dive right into your leaving your W-2, Rob because that’s awesome. Congratulations on that. I know a lot of people always ask, oh, I see door pound. How does that relate to cash flow? How does that relate to money? Obviously, you’ve left your job. When you first got into multifamily, was leaving your job, was that the most important goal? Was that kind of the first thing you wanted to do? Did that just come along later? What was your goal there?

Robert
Well, it wasn’t necessarily the goal. The real goal was– at first, was to get some passive income, was the initial first goal. And [inaudible] that cover all of our expenses. If I could cover all of our expenses to our real estate investing, then I knew– you know, then I had the freedom to decide what else I wanted to do. Leaving the W-2 really came from having that done, picking up passive income, and then picking up some active income where, you know, all the expenses were covered. And I was getting closer and closer to replacing that income. At that point, then I knew it was entirely timeline was up to me at that point.

Mark
And as you started to make that progress to the finish line, did it move at all? Did you think, okay, I need to make the exact same amount of income, that I need to make less than my job, I need to make more than my job and passive income. How did that change or did it stay the same over that period?

Robert
Now, the fortunate part, fortunate enough I didn’t have to make exactly, you know, the same as what my W-2 was, but the timeline really moved up in my ability to leave the W-2. I ended up leaving about the same time that I had planned, you know, several years ago, but the ability to leave came much earlier.

Rod
Nice. Nice. Nice. So, let me ask you, all these doors and units and storage that you’ve done, have you partnered with other Warriors in these deals?

Robert
Yes, actually, all the deals except for one were with other Warriors. We’ll say never, but, I mean, pretty much any of the deals I have going forward will be with other Warriors. It’s nice to have, you know, that network that you can draw from, and you’ve got people that have different strengths and other people that you know that have a good background and have, you know, good experience and education that if you want to bounce something off somebody, if you’re not sure about something, you don’t really have to question whether or not they know what they’re talking about.

Rod
Yeah, well, you get to know them, so you kind of really know who they are as well. So let me ask you this. You know, with this business as a team sport, you know that I talk about it ad nauseam, but, you know, in your, you know, relationships that you’ve built with Warriors and all these deals you’ve taken down, what hat have you worn, or have you worn multiple hats as it relates to the team dynamic?

Robert
I ended up wearing multiple hats in different deals. [inaudible] in many hats and a couple of deals, but mostly in investor relations and asset management.

Rod
Okay, fantastic. Yeah. From all your management experience, my God, that’s a no-brainer that you would be involved in the asset management piece for sure, and then, you know, you’re a great communicator, so I could totally see, you know, the investor relations piece as well. Yeah. That makes complete sense.

Robert
Yeah. That portion was definitely out of my comfort zone as well, so just going to Atlanta the first time was definitely out of my comfort zone, and then building those new relationships with investors was asking for money is never easy.

Rod
Yeah, but, you know, you’re such a nice guy, though, and you’re a great communicator, and you’ve managed lots of people in your retail experience. So, you know, I realize it’s not your superpower, but it’s such a natural– I mean, I could totally see how you could be so great at it because you’re so genuine and you guys, those of you listening, you know there are multiple hats you wear in this business. You know, you could help raise money. You can’t just raise money. You do have to do other things, but you can raise the money. You know, you could do the asset management if you’ve got project management, management experience of any kind, construction experience, you know, definitely a need for that. If you’re super analytical and you love spreadsheets, you can be involved in the underwriting. So there are just so many hats you can wear. If you’re super outgoing, you know, like me, you can be the mouthpiece, and you’re building relationships with brokers and investors and so on and so forth. But, you know, I’m so impressed as well that you stepped outside of comfort. Because, guys, you hear me say it time and time again, that magnificent life of your dreams is just on the other side of comfort. So, you know, again, really impressed, brother.

Robert
Thank you.

Mark
Out of curiosity, Rob, why did you decide to partner mostly with Warriors instead of, you know, maybe people outside of the group in the network?

Robert
You know, I think part of it is because we really get a chance to know each other. You know, going to Rod’s boot camps, you know, one of the key benefits of that is the networking, and you really get to FaceTime with people. You know it’s– doing things you know, over Zoom or, you know, on the phone are great, but there’s nothing like sitting down with somebody and having that face-to-face contact.

Rod
And you went to subsequent boot camps after Atlanta, didn’t you?

Robert
Yes. I think I’ve only missed one since then.

Rod
Wow. And, you know, I will tell you guys, those of you listening, that is an extremely common comment in my super successful Warriors, because this business is your net worth, okay? Your network, I’m sorry, is your net worth and who you hang out with, and who you associate with. And my most successful Warriors are the ones– not only the ones that are most connected in the Warrior group but the ones that go to these boot camps and just network like crazy. And that’s absolutely a recipe for success in this business. By the way, if you want to apply to the Warrior program, just text the word “crush” to “72345”. That’s “crush” to “72345” and we’ll set up a call and we’ll look you over. You’ll look us over. And if it’s a fit, we’d love to have you. Even if it’s not a fit, you’ll absolutely leave that call better than when you first got into it. So, you know, definitely, you know, apply if you have an interest. I want to say this as well. Opportunity is freaking coming. It’s already here, actually, but it’s going to even be more coming, and, you know, it could be the greatest transfer of wealth we see in our lifetime coming. And, you know, but you got to be up to speed. If you’re trying to learn this business, you know, while we’re in the thick of it, it’s going to be too late. And let me mention this, if I didn’t do it on the intro here in the podcast, you know, I’ve got a boot camp coming up, a virtual boot camp. Two days, not a live one, but we have a mechanism so you can meet other Warriors or other people in the group that attend the boot camp as well. But, you know, I don’t care if you learn from me, but you need to get up to speed right away. You know, the boot camp right now is like $97, and I don’t sell anything there. It’s virtual, two-day boot camp. So, it’s kind of a no-brainer if multifamily is what you’re interested in. Now, if it’s not, go figure out what your vehicle is going to be to capitalize on what’s coming. If it’s single-family, if it’s other asset classes in real estate, whatever it is, learn it right now, don’t wait, because an incredible opportunity is coming and I just don’t want to see you miss it. So, there you go.

Mark
Agreed. Actually, I just got off the phone call with a property manager yesterday. They’re in Florida, manages all of Jacksonville and Orlando, and he’s seen rents are cooling down. And when rents cooled down, what does that mean for like, Mom and Pop owners and things like that? Well, they might want to get out of the market, retire. There are going to be motivated sellers for these fears because it’s not going to be a super hot market going forward. So, it’s definitely happening already. But, on that topic, I know, Rob, we talk about single-family versus multifamily a lot, but not necessarily self-storage. You’ve obviously done some. What are some of the pros and cons of multifamily versus self-storage, at least that you’ve seen in your experience for people that may be interested in thinking about doing both or one or the other?

Rod
Yeah.

Robert
Well, the nice part is that the financial end is very similar. So, you know, the numbers basically work the same. Someone renting space from you, so when it comes down to the numbers, they really end up being the same. The asset management portion is a little bit different. A big portion is the– you know the property itself. Obviously, there’s a lot less, you know, you don’t have refrigerators, you don’t have toilets, you don’t have all that portion. Any eviction is a lot easier than– and I think we kind of learned that in Covid. Fortunately, a lot of properties didn’t have major issues, but some of the areas and, you know, maybe in some other blue states had trouble with that where self-storage, the laws are a little bit different, a lot more lenient towards the landlord than [inaudible] that.

Rod
Are the returns similar, Rob? I’m just curious. You know, like we’ve got a deal in Nashville under contract right now, and what’s our cash on cash will be 8% to 10%. Our IRR is 16 to 19, and our AAR is 20 to 22. And that’s with 60% loan to value debt as well. Very conservative debt. So those are really extraordinary numbers. But is self-storage at that level? Do you have the ability to ramp value like you do with multifamily? I’m just curious. I know you can certainly increase efficiencies, you know, bring in tech things like that, but I’d just love to get your perspective on that.

Robert
Right. And that’s where the value ends up coming in, is more on the efficiencies and the management.

Rod
Yeah.

Robert
You definitely can’t have better returns on multifamily.

Rod
Okay.

Robert
Yeah. I think that’s a given as an overall– the returns are potentially much better in– I wouldn’t say much better, but, you know, definitely better in multifamily. So that’s where, you know, a lot of the difference comes into just where you increase your value.

Rod
Sure.

Mark
Because that was my thought process as well. Right. Because the self-storage unit is just a square room, right? There’s not much value out there [inaudible]

Rod
You hose it out, you throw away their junk if they left it, and you’re off to the races, right?

Robert
Right.

Rod
You see these shows where people will buy the stuff that’s left and maybe hoping for some treasure or whatever, and sometimes they find it, but that’s fun to watch. You know, I want to ask you to share some words of wisdom because with aspiring multifamily investors. I know, you know, I get it, like you when you first got introduced to me in, you know, 2018 or early ’19, whatever, whenever it was, you know, you were an aspiring multifamily investor. What words of wisdom would you share or advice or strategy might you share with someone that’s where you were back then, you know, to help them capitalize on, I think, the incredible opportunity that’s coming?

Robert
Yeah, the number one thing I would say is to get educated.

Rod
Yeah.

Robert
You know, I think people take real estate in general for granted a lot. They think it’s easy, just buy something and somebody moves in and that’s the end of it. And when you’re talking about, you know, something like multifamily, you’re talking about– no, it’s not necessarily more complicated, but the numbers are bigger, so the mistakes are bigger.

Rod
Right.

Robert
So, definitely, get educated. That’s the number one thing. There are a lot of different programs out there. I’m partial to yours–

Rod
Thanks. No, they really are. I don’t care if you learn from me, but go learn, for Christ’s sake, you know. And if you do want to learn from me, you can text my name, “Rod” to “72345” and it will send you to the boot camp website. If it’s over $97– if you DM me, I’ll make sure you get that $97 price. It will hit $400 eventually. But, anyway no, I appreciate that. And education is probably the most important piece and then really– would you agree that the second might be your peer group to get around people that are doing it?

Robert
Absolutely.

Rod
And again, even if you know, are not interested in our Warrior program, go to your local meetup groups, meet people that are, you know, talking multifamily, wallowing in multifamily. Get around people, you know, that aren’t afraid of your dreams and your goals so they’re not trying to, you know, minimize what you’re trying to accomplish. And, you know, the sad reality is so many people default to, you know, their peer group of– the people they went to school with or work with. And sometimes those people, out of their fears or limiting beliefs or fear of losing you or fear of being embarrassed if you succeed will hold you back. And sometimes it’s family. So, you know, if that’s the case, love your family. But proactively choose your peers because, you know, you’ve heard the saying you are the sum total of the people you hang out with, and it’s absolutely the truth. So, you know, be very selective there as well.

Mark
I might even argue that might be the number one because if you get educated around the wrong people, the education might not do as much. But if you’re around the right people, education will probably follow through being around those people.

Rod
Yeah.

Mark
But Rob what are some things that you think you might have missed or maybe even done wrong along this journey if you didn’t get educated or have a mentor, let’s say?

Robert
Well, definitely, I think I probably would still be dabbling in single-family. I don’t think I would have gotten out of that if I hadn’t gotten the education and understood the difference and how much more you can scale in multifamily than you can in single. I think that’s really the big difference. I would definitely still be stuck in single-family.

Rod
Yeah.

Robert
And get hurt really bad. I got hurt in 2008. Not as bad as Rod did, but proportionately maybe, but definitely– and honestly, kind of like the times we’re in right now, what hurt me the worst wasn’t what I lost in 2008, it’s what I lost an opportunity cost in the years after.

Rod
Thank you. That is very astute. And, you know, like, right now, I’m in a lot of cash. But see, here’s the thing, you know because cash is king and, you know, everything’s going on sale, I’m just telling you that right now. I saw an article in Fox that literally like three days ago that said half the companies this survey was sent to are laying off people in the next 30 to 60 days. Okay? Half of the companies. So, you know, pain is coming. I think after the midterms are when the news will really start to look ugly. And that’s why, you know, getting really clear on your goals and what you want. So you focus on what you want, not the fear that’s going to be thrown out there and the crap they put on the news channels. You know, just really be careful with that. Pay attention to that. Stand guard at the door to your mind, so you’re only bringing in the good stuff, not the negative stuff because there’ll be a lot of negative stuff coming. You know, I think they’re mitigating it now until the election, but after that, I think, you know, the news is going to paint it to be really ugly like they did in 2009. Oh real estate will be terrible for ten years. Well, it wasn’t, okay? And, you know, multifamily rents literally exceeded pre-crash levels in less than three years of the big crash in 2009. And so, yeah.

Mark
I’ll give you a few, by the way. Today is what? August 25th. I don’t know when it’s going to come out, but Google this, listeners. Three companies that this big company has already happened to Redfin, huge layoffs. Compass, the real estate company, GEICO, GEICO actually just completely left California altogether. All their offices, all their employees. So, huge companies are cutting back already because they know what’s going to happen and what’s going to come. So, Google it if you don’t believe us. Go Google all those three companies.

Rod
Yeah. And again, we’re not trying to scare you, frankly, trying to get you excited, because, you know, and here’s the other thing. Even if you don’t have a lot of money, these deals take money, but it doesn’t have to be your own money, okay? You know, I have tons of students that have bought thousands, tens of thousands of units that don’t have their own money that remains in the deal. You know, you can raise the at-risk capital, the earnest money, the third-party report cost, and the due diligence cost. You can raise all that to give somebody a slice of the deal. You can raise all the equity you need for the deal. So, again, yes, these deals take money, but there’s, you know, a lot of money that got hurt in the stock market. We won’t even talk about Blockchain. I mean, I saw people crying, losing millions of dollars on social media from Crypto. But the point is, there’s still a lot of money out there that needs a home, that wants a solid hedge against inflation, you know. And multifamily is an incredibly solid asset. I think it’s the safest, in my opinion. I can’t argue about self-storage, and I really haven’t studied it as much, but, you know, like, even with Covid, you know, office buildings didn’t get help. Retail, shopping centers didn’t get help, industrial didn’t get help. I mean, we got hundreds of thousands of dollars in rent relief to our tenants in our C-class assets. So, you know, it’s just an incredible asset class. But anyway, I know that you know, you’re still doing some self-storage. You’ve got a deal going right now. Is it a new construction or is it a purchase?

Robert
No, it’s a purchase, Rod.

Rod
Okay.

Robert
In ten different properties. It’s a big one. It went from two properties and turned into ten different properties. So, it’s a big one. Hopefully, be closing out in the next probably three weeks.

Rod
Congratulations.

Mark
How the hell did that happen? How did it go from two to ten? That’s exciting. Yes.

Robert
Brokers bringing deals, just, you know, partners reaching out and brokers bringing deals and multiple people talking and really putting it together and then, you know, just getting the lenders to be able to put that together only because of relationships. That was the big thing. Just having the relationships and being able to put all those together into one package. And there’s still a lot of work going on, but yeah, it turned big overnight.

Rod
What do you think is the biggest reason that people fail or give up on our business, Rob?

Robert
I think probably realizing that it’s going to take a while sometimes to get that first deal done. If you give up before then, it could be frustrating. Once that first deal gets done, it definitely gets easier. You know, and then sometimes people, you know, overanalyze. I’m definitely guilty of, you know, that analysis paralysis, for sure.

Rod
Those are two great reasons. Yeah, those are two great reasons. And that first deal, I see it all the time with Warriors. I mean, it’s six months, it’s eight months, sometimes even a year, and they’re crying, they didn’t get a deal, and I have to keep kicking them in the butt. And then they get that first one, and then, it’s like, I don’t know, it just feels like within a few months, they’ve got two or three or four more. Like it’s crazy how that dynamic works. That first deal is the hardest, scariest, takes the longest, most stressful, and then it’s like, is that all there was? And then they’re off to the freaking races. Yeah, no, that’s good. Let me ask you this. You know, when you got into this business as part of your progression, were there any kind of like epiphany moments? Like any aha moments where you’re like, okay, now I get it. And I know I didn’t give you a chance to prepare for any of this, so if nothing comes to mind, it’s cool. But anything come to mind that it was like, okay, now I get it. Like an epiphany.

Robert
You know, I would say there were a couple of moments, but, you know, the biggest one was at one of the recent Warrior meetups, you know, talking to a number of the other Warriors and realized– I thought I was way behind. I honestly thought I was, you know, not doing well. I didn’t think that you know–

Rod
Really.

Robert
Yeah. You see everybody and they all– the people who do huge sales, of course, are all shouting from the mountain top, right?

Rod
Right.

Robert
So, I thought, you know, I was really far behind and I just needing enough other people that were either in the same position or just starting out kind of just gave me that, okay, you know, I’m doing all right, you know. And it’s just going to keep moving forward and better things keep happening, you know and motion creates that.

Rod
Nice.

Robert
So, just really hearing myself the okay to keep moving forward was really– I think that was the biggest one.

Rod
No, that’s awesome. And, you know, just so you guys know, again, even the Warriors inside of the Warrior group, we have lots of groups that meet outside of the Warrior group, but there are Warriors meeting locally. Like we connect our Warriors with anybody who lives near them. And so, there are people that meet in Tampa. There are people leaving Miami. Orlando. They have these little meetups and sometimes it’s four or five people, sometimes it’s 20 or 30, and, you know, these little subgroups, which is just really, really cool. I have one last question because you know, you had to push through fear and getting uncomfortable to build relationships. How did you do that? How did you overcome that? What was the impetus to get you to say, okay, you know, I don’t want to put words in your mouth, how did you do it?

Robert
Well, you know, I can look at a lot of people, you know— and it’s true and there’s nothing wrong with, you know, using the WHY factor.

Rod
Right.

Robert
But that’s really common. And I’ve used it a lot, you know, and I’ve preached it to my people for a long time. But there’s another one that is– for me, anyway, is much stronger.

Rod
Okay.

Robert
And that’s the power of disgust. And it disgusts you with yourself because you didn’t achieve something or didn’t do something or didn’t follow through. That to me is a much bigger driving factor. So that question of what if you don’t do this? You know, how do you look back? What happens? You know, how will my wife look at me if I don’t do this when I said I was going to? You know that to me was much more powerful, and that’s what pushed me through.

Rod
That’s really insightful. And I tell the story about, you know, going from a million-dollar house in a Rolls Royce to having to paint a house to make enough money to eat. My mom bringing me groceries because she was worried about me and having a meltdown just being disgusted with myself as well. So, that is awesome. People will do more to avoid pain than gain pleasure. And then, you know, when I do my goal setting, you know, we incorporate both because both of them are drivers. You know, what’s your why but what don’t you want? You know, you don’t want to fail your kids, you don’t want to fail your spouse, you don’t want to, you know, be a failure, have a life of regret, so on and so forth. Really good answer, brother. Well, listen, my friend, it is super great to see you. I really appreciate, you know, you coming on and sharing some wisdom and spending some time with us today, buddy. And I hope I see you, you know, in person again real soon.

Robert
My pleasure. Thanks, Rod, appreciate your time.

Rod
Yeah, alright. Thanks

Mark
Thanks, Rob.

Robert
Alright, Mark, thanks.

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Rod, I know a lot of our listeners are wanting to take their multifamily investing business to the next level. Now, I know you’ve been hard at work helping our Warrior students do just that using our “ACT” methodology which is Awareness, Close, and Transform. Can you explain to the listeners how they can get our help?

Rod
You bet. Guys, we’ve been going non-stop for three years building an amazing community of like-minded people, and our coaching students which we call our Warriors have had extraordinary results. They’ve purchased thousands and thousands of units and last year we did over 1000 units with our students. And we’re looking to grow this group and take it to the next level. We’re looking for people who want to follow a proven framework that’s really step by step and then leverage our systems and network to raise equity, to find and close deals, and to build partnerships nationwide. Now, our Warrior community is finding success in any market cycle. So if you’re interested in finding out more about how you can become more of our incredible network and take advantage of the incredible opportunities that are coming very soon, apply to work with us at “MentorWithRod.com” or text the word “CRUSH” to “72345” and we’ll set up a call so you can check us out and we can check you out. Again, to apply, text “CRUSH” to “72345”.

 

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