Shawn began investing in real estate in 2010, focusing on single-family rentals before moving into multi-family properties in 2021. With a career in construction and a successful real estate business, he aims to provide affordable, sustainable housing while maximizing investor returns. Since joining the Warrior program in July 2022, Shawn has been involved in 850 units as an LP, 274 as a GP, with 600 more under contract. His goal is to grow his portfolio to 3,000 units in the next year and 10,000 in five years.

Here’s some of the topics we covered:

  • Shawn’sGame-Changing Start in Real Estate Investing
  • How ShawnTurned Construction Expertise into Real Estate Gold
  • Building a Powerhouse Multifamily Dream Team
  • Why Having a Coach Is Your Secret Weapon to Success
  • What Every Investor Needs to Know about 2008 & Today
  • Get Skilled and Take Unstoppable Action

If you’d like to apply to the warrior program and do deals with other rockstars in this business: Text crush to 72345 and we’ll be speaking soon.

Full Transcript Below

00:00:29:14 – 00:00:48:04
Rod
Welcome to multifamily rockstars. So as you guys know, this is where we interview people that are just flat out crushing it in our business, and we show the inside scoop as to how multifamily investors are creating massive success, not just in their businesses, but also in their lives. And as always, I’ve got my co-host, who’s the director of our massive action team for our warrior group.

00:00:48:04 – 00:00:51:13
Rod
On the call, Mark Nagy. Mark, there he is. What’s up?

00:00:51:15 – 00:00:57:05
Mark
Hey, rod. Just, glad to be back at it after a very, very long 4th of July weekend.

00:00:57:07 – 00:01:04:02
Rod
Yeah, I saw you were in Vegas, and you looked at this little snot guard on 1 or 2 of those pictures. So you’ve probably still recovered.

00:01:04:03 – 00:01:08:10
Mark
That’s just water because it was so hot. 110. Yeah. He’s just gotta stay hydrated, you know?

00:01:08:13 – 00:01:30:01
Rod
Yeah. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. Well, listen, we’ve got a really nice guy on the show today. His name’s Sean’s Reyes house. And Sean, and he’s done a lot of stuff. He joined our warrior program in July of 22 last year. Been involved in 856 units as a limited partner since then. And just, just under 300 as a general partner.

00:01:30:01 – 00:01:42:22
Rod
He’s got 600 under contract, is partnered with other warriors. And, so we’re gonna have a wide ranging conversation today. He’s got a big construction background, but you know what? I’m going to let him tell you. Sean, welcome to the show, brother.

00:01:42:24 – 00:01:44:23
Shawn
Thank you. Thank you very much.

00:01:45:00 – 00:02:01:13
Rod
Yeah. For sure. So so, you know, tell us, tell us, you know, you’ve got this incredible stuff, a lot of stuff that you’ve done, maybe give us kind of like a highlight reel of your background, in general. And then you know, why multifamily and kind of bring us current, if you would.

00:02:01:14 – 00:02:26:19
Shawn
Yeah, absolutely. So first of all, thank you very much for y’all. Y’all having me on the show. And I’m very excited. So, just a little bit about myself. I, started in the construction industry probably when I was 15 or 16. Actually started in the eight vac, side, building ductwork and installing air conditioners, but, have been in construction for 25 plus years.

00:02:26:21 – 00:02:52:17
Shawn
Of those 25 I’ve owned a company for probably 22 or 23 of those years. I started in here in Dallas as I was raised here in Dallas, Texas. Ended up getting some opportunities to go overseas and work on American embassies throughout the world. Africa, Tanzania, South Africa, Nigeria, some Paulo Brazil was my last stint where I met my, my current wife.

00:02:52:19 – 00:03:24:02
Shawn
So we ended up coming back to the States in, 20, 2003, 23 of 2004 started another company. And about that time is, is when I started getting into real estate. But I started on single family side, as most of us do. So I had some single family homes kind of coming up through, got back to Dallas, come coming back to I started, helped start a energy as a, as a service company.

00:03:24:04 – 00:03:46:17
Shawn
I started an office in Dallas with them about 5 or 6 years ago. And I learned about multifamily about three years ago. So when I figured out I could buy multifamily and partner and go through some masterminds and programs such as yours, we ended up partnering with some great, great, people in this area and in Florida, and started investing in multifamily.

00:03:46:17 – 00:04:03:08
Shawn
So I ditched all my single families. I have two left. I got one on the on the market right now, but, and I have one left after that. And now I’m full time. I ended up retiring in January of this this year and, full time multifamily real estate investing, so.

00:04:03:09 – 00:04:14:12
Rod
Oh, congratulations. I didn’t know that, brother. That’s fantastic. So. So, you know, I know that, so so you said you met some great people in Texas and in Florida. I assume those were warriors. Is that was that what you were alluding to?

00:04:14:12 – 00:04:15:12
Shawn
Absolutely. Yeah.

00:04:15:13 – 00:04:39:01
Rod
Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Well, you know, I know that you you believe in education, man. And I saw that when I looked at your bio because you’ve gone to Grant Cardone events, you’ve gone, you know, you checked out Lifestyles Unlimited, which has been around a long time. You’ve gone to Michael Blank’s masterminds. He’s he’s a good friend of mine, and and, you know why?

00:04:39:01 – 00:04:40:04
Rod
The warrior group, man?

00:04:40:04 – 00:04:59:19
Shawn
So I tell you, like I tell everybody this is it because I’m on your show, I promise you. But, I do some of these masterminds, and I think, you know, the first thing that’s extremely important is I think you have to invest in yourself, number one. Right. So once you invest in yourself and you get the knowledge that you need, there’s there’s programs out there to help you do that.

00:04:59:19 – 00:05:30:21
Shawn
And, you know, I started in grant cartoons, real estate summit in his in paid for his mastermind. And like you said, I went to some other summits. Michael Blanc lifestyles, been to some rock summit. And your summit is, you know, it’s kind of weighing those after I had gone through Grant Cardone and and I’ll tell you guys, like I tell everybody, you know, Grant Cardone is like, it’s for a great it’s networking and it and it’s to kind of expand your thinking.

00:05:30:21 – 00:06:03:23
Shawn
But if you truly want to know the nuts and bolts and get into the not necessarily the weeds, but get into really what you need to know about multifamily, your program, Rocky’s program is by far the best bang for the buck. We ended up going, like I said, to some rocks, I was waiting his at the same time I was waiting yours and you know, to be able to come to yours, get that education and get a personal coach, was just it’s just unmatched, to be honest with you.

00:06:04:00 – 00:06:06:00
Rod
Oh, thanks for that, brother. Thanks. Well, you.

00:06:06:00 – 00:06:24:03
Mark
Mentioned nitty gritty, and I was going to ask you because you mentioned you live in Texas. Florida? Those are two of the biggest states right now that are getting hit really, really hard with the insurance crisis that’s affecting real estate big time. And some people are just saying, screw it, and they’re going and buying deals and other states.

00:06:24:03 – 00:06:32:20
Mark
Some people like myself, they’re just changing underwriting. How are you seeing insurance, affecting those markets that you’re working in right now for investing?

00:06:32:21 – 00:07:05:09
Shawn
It’s a big, it’s a big effect on, just like you said on the underwriting. So, you know, we invest and we’ve looked at a lot of deals in Houston, which is kind of in that zone one with Florida. I’m in a fortunately, I’m in a little bit better location as far as insurance premiums go, but it’s a massive effect, I think, you know, 12 to 15 months ago, just to give an example, we were at, I think 550 $600 a door and depending on like Houston, some of those quotes are coming back at $3,000 a door.

00:07:05:11 – 00:07:14:16
Rod
And a $3,000 quote. We got a $3,000 quote on one in Louisiana. Wow. It was like, oh, it it was a screamin freakin deal. I’m like, oh my God, it killed me.

00:07:14:18 – 00:07:37:03
Shawn
Yeah. And it just blows the whole deal out of the water. So and here’s the other thing on top of that is that some of these guys are not giving us like soft quotes, but you know, until 2 or 3 weeks before clothes, how do you underwrite that? You know, how do you figure that? So unless you have the experience and you’ve been in the market, you know, such as yourself, you kind of can start to estimate that you see where those premiums are going.

00:07:37:03 – 00:07:40:06
Shawn
But it has a massive impact on on everything.

00:07:40:06 – 00:07:44:16
Rod
So let me ask you a question. Tell us the three best things about you.

00:07:44:18 – 00:07:53:14
Shawn
You know, I think I have, a good personality. I’m willing to, to work with others. I love to learn. And I think that’s very important.

00:07:53:17 – 00:07:57:20
Rod
Well, that’s obvious. Yeah, that’s obvious from from your bio. Good lord.

00:07:57:22 – 00:08:27:20
Shawn
Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I think it’s important that you, you invest in yourself. Yeah. You know, I, I think obviously my construction background brings a lot to the table, in, in this multifamily world and especially in value adds. And you know, close in 6 or 7 deals just in the, in the past couple of years, I think is, is a great, is a great deal to bring to the table, especially with GP’s that are LPs that are looking to get to or to start their journey.

00:08:27:20 – 00:08:44:03
Rod
So yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, I was going to ask you whether and how you’re utilizing that construction experience, you know, in your deals with Warriors, these, these deals you’ve done recently. And so you’ve been involved heavily in the asset management and the CapEx projects, I assume.

00:08:44:05 – 00:09:04:03
Shawn
So that’s kind of what we look for. You know, I don’t know if you’re having the same issue. We’ve kind of looked at some classes. We have a small class A in downtown Dallas. It was our first acquisition that we that we did. It’s a little 18 door. And, turns out those those you’re buying another job, but, you you have to live and learn.

00:09:04:03 – 00:09:21:00
Shawn
Right? But so now we’re looking for the classes. Underwrite really well. And if it’s a heavy value add, man, it’s right up my wheelhouse with construction and project management and things of that nature. So, yeah, I love I love those kind of assets.

00:09:21:02 – 00:09:35:11
Rod
Well, let me just say this to you, okay? Because I’ve been saying this publicly and, two things. One, I want to hammer home what you just said about an 18 unit. How it’s a job. It’s it’s it’s the same amount of work to buy an 18 unit as it is to buy a 60, 70, 80, 100 unit.

00:09:35:11 – 00:09:50:20
Rod
Okay. And with a 60, 70, 80, 100 unit, you can have an on site infrastructure. Okay. Typically 70 is the minimum, but with rents as high as they are now, it’s probably less than that. But the point is then you don’t have to be there every frickin day doing everything because you got people on site. So that’s what he meant by that.

00:09:50:22 – 00:10:10:22
Rod
And then secondarily, I just, you know, I would just want to caution you on the C class assets, only because that’s the demographic that’s getting their ass handed to them right now with this inflation and gas and everything else. And so, you know, I mean, I know you know, what you’re doing, there’s no question. And you can create the value through your incredible construction experience.

00:10:10:24 – 00:10:31:16
Rod
But, you know, I just I, I, you know, I lost $50 million. So I’m much more conservative than most. So I’m thinking way ahead, probably overthinking in some cases. But, you know, I’m a little worried about C particularly C minus like C minus definitely D I mean those people are getting killed. They go to paycheck to paycheck.

00:10:31:20 – 00:10:49:06
Rod
You know, a lot. I saw an article that a lot of them are using credit card debt just to pay their living expenses. What could be wrong with that? Right. And so, you know, just just, just a cautionary, Sean. That’s all I would say on the C class because, I’ve been spouting that publicly a little bit now just to be careful there.

00:10:49:06 – 00:11:06:18
Mark
You mentioned your construction experience. For the contractors and construction people that are listening, that are saying, okay, how can I leverage my experience? What what what do you think you would recommend to them as kind of, the best way to get started or maybe value add into their first multifamily deal?

00:11:06:20 – 00:11:12:20
Rod
You’re talking about other people in the construct in the trades. Is that what you’re saying? Okay, sorry I didn’t want to make sure I got that.

00:11:12:22 – 00:11:39:22
Shawn
Yeah. I mean, like we were talking about earlier, I think that, you know, being in the construction world helps you transition a little bit or bring those talents to the table to a team that may be looking for somebody that can asset management and asset management and project management there, there and and hand. They’re almost identical. If you if you’ve been in any type of project management, leading a team or leading an effort, it works really well.

00:11:39:22 – 00:12:01:04
Shawn
So I think if you’re trying to come into it, find a team that’s looking for, I’ll give you an instance. We have a 300 plus unit under contract right now. I’m the only person in Dallas, so I’m the boots on the ground. And when they found out about, you know, the the construction and the asset management, that’s what kind of attracted me to them and vice versa.

00:12:01:07 – 00:12:07:17
Shawn
Everybody has what you need out there and everybody, you know, you have what somebody else needs is the way I like to say it.

00:12:07:17 – 00:12:17:05
Rod
So is that is that a value add deal that that 300 unit, is that a value idea. Yeah. And how much how much per unit do you think. And hold on one second because I want to expand on something you just said.

00:12:17:08 – 00:12:43:13
Shawn
Yeah that varies even in Dallas. So in this particular location we have two, two different, value adds going on. We have a basic upgrade and a premium upgrade. I got couple right. We estimated about $3,800 a door and our premium upgrade, we estimated about $8,000 a door. But here’s what I’ll tell y’all. Right? The 8000 doors, in my opinion, won’t, it won’t absorb that.

00:12:43:15 – 00:13:01:13
Shawn
In other words, I don’t think we’re going to end up spending 8000 to achieve our pro forma rent. So if we only need 100 bucks to get to our pro forma, I think we’re I think we’re over budget on that, which is a good thing, to be honest with you. But I don’t think dumping $8,000 into a, c plus asset is, is going to work.

00:13:01:15 – 00:13:21:03
Rod
Well, it may not. And I will tell you one of the one of the rough rules of thumb is that I like to use whenever I’m doing CapEx, which is what we’re talking about here, guys, CapEx, capital expenditures is I like to ideally see a three year payback. So if I’m going to spend $3,600 on a fit on a, on a fixed, I’m going to want to see, you know, $200.

00:13:21:06 – 00:13:35:22
Rod
It was that right? Two times. Am I doing that right? My math in my head. I’m going to want to see it paid back in 36 months. So. So that’s 100 bucks. Sorry I throw so 3600 bucks would be 100 bucks, increase in rent. So, you know, that’s the ideal. Now, of course, you’re not going to always get that.

00:13:35:22 – 00:13:52:24
Rod
You sometimes are going to, you know, but I definitely wouldn’t go over five years because, you know, then you’re, you’re you’re overpaying for the CapEx. There’s just no question. You know, it’s interesting you were talking about asset management, project management. And on our warrior call yesterday, we have our group calls. And on the advanced portion of the call we do an a fundamental portion.

00:13:52:24 – 00:14:14:02
Rod
In the advanced portion, I was talking about, you know, I showed an outline of a weekly call that we have with, with one of our assets, and we do it with both. Both assets and both of our newer assets now. And, you know, it just lists out all the different KPIs, the key performance indicators, the metrics that we want to measure on a weekly basis.

00:14:14:04 – 00:14:31:20
Rod
And and like you said, if you’ve got some project management experience and, you know, you’re perfect for that, if you’ve got construction experience over on top of that, that’s, that’s that’s like a massive home run. Any trades, by the way, it doesn’t matter what trade you in. You know, that’s just incredible value add to a team.

00:14:31:20 – 00:14:53:07
Rod
And as you guys know, this is a team sport. You know you need that component, that asset management component which is perfect for you. You need an underwriter, which is that analyst that you can lock in a room with a spreadsheet and throw raw meat in once in a while. And he’s happy that person or she, and then you need a mouthpiece like rod out there talking to brokers and sellers and investors and so on and so forth.

00:14:53:07 – 00:15:04:17
Rod
So, yeah, that’s, that’s that’s fantastic. So you’ve really found your slot in, in these warrior teams that you’ve either put together a joint. So, you know, really impressed with that brother.

00:15:04:19 – 00:15:23:01
Mark
Well, that’s what I was going to ask how for the you know, I get this question a lot. How do these teams come together. You mentioned you’re the guy that’s in Dallas. Did you find the deal? Then bring it to others for skill sets. Did they find the deal, then come to you? Did you already have the preexisting relationship with the team?

00:15:23:01 – 00:15:25:01
Mark
How did that team come together?

00:15:25:03 – 00:15:45:11
Shawn
So it’s a little bit of both. But the one in particular that we’re talking about, they actually had the deal, where they oddly enough, they had a sister deal over in Fort Worth, our our neighbor next door. And we were talking about that when, when I found out about this one. So, it just happened to be that this was a little bit bigger project.

00:15:45:13 – 00:16:08:22
Shawn
I didn’t think that we had the team put together. Well, that came full circle and it came back and we kind of all started talking. But to answer your question, it’s network. It’s network. It’s funny. I mean, we talk about all these other, you know, masterminds and stuff. But when the Warriors go to another mastermind and, and they find out that they’re warriors or they know each other, it deepens that connection.

00:16:08:22 – 00:16:24:03
Shawn
And sometimes people already have a deal and you just kind of start networking and find out what, what people need. And if you’re in the, in the, in the hood and you got somebody with boots on the ground, it’s usually a pretty good thing. So network.

00:16:24:05 – 00:16:36:17
Rod
Yeah. Love it. So tell me what the best piece of advice you feel like you’ve ever gotten. And this could be life advice, could be real estate advice. You choose the topic. But, what’s some of the best advice you’ve ever gotten, brother?

00:16:36:19 – 00:16:40:24
Shawn
Man, that is a I don’t know if I can answer it. Five minutes.

00:16:40:24 – 00:16:55:06
Rod
Yeah. Just just. All right. Well, well, you know, or maybe some of the worst advice then. I mean, when you go both sides of that equation, you know, think back to think back to, you know, things you may have heard. And if you even if I stump show, I can come up with something else. No big deal.

00:16:55:08 – 00:17:14:11
Shawn
You know, I, I don’t know, I think that some of the best advice, you know, that I’ve ever gotten is, we’ve mentioned it several times. Is, is educate yourself, you know, invest in yourself. I think that is by far. And I didn’t learn that until later in life is, you know, maybe that advice was given to me, you know, 2 or 3 years ago.

00:17:14:11 – 00:17:25:01
Shawn
And today, I think sometimes that changes throughout your journey and throughout your life. Right. But I would say invest in yourself, man, the education that you need in order to be successful.

00:17:25:03 – 00:17:42:09
Rod
Now, there’s no question. And, and, you know, I found the value of coaches, I don’t know, maybe 25, 30 years ago. And before then I didn’t. So I made every frickin mistake in the book. In fact, at my boot camps, you know, I hand out those shirts that say hashtag, ask me how I know because I made every frickin mistake in the world.

00:17:42:14 – 00:18:03:09
Rod
And I say, you know, don’t do that. Ask me how I know. And and, you know, it’s interesting, I talk about this is, you know, like Michael Jordan at the height of his career, had like 6 or 7 coaches. I mean, had a nutrition coach, lifestyle, you know, relationship coach, assistant coach. I could go on, nutritional coaching on and on and on is the best in the world.

00:18:03:09 – 00:18:22:08
Rod
And and, you know, and it’s a shame that I didn’t get that memo sooner because I’d be much further along than I even am now, had I known that. And, so I appreciate you talking about that, because I will tell you. Yeah. You know, learners are earners and, you know, I’m, I’ve, I went to Grant Cardone growth con, you know, just, just to network and stuff.

00:18:22:08 – 00:18:23:05
Rod
I spent 20 grand.

00:18:23:11 – 00:18:24:03
Shawn
Takes you there.

00:18:24:07 – 00:18:38:18
Rod
Oh. Did we forgive me buddy, I, I had I literally I felt like it was one of my events. I probably did 200 selfies with people. And also I lose track. Forgive me, but, but, you know, it’s so. So. Yeah, I’m still, you know, it’s not like a do as I say, not as I do kind of a thing.

00:18:38:18 – 00:19:00:05
Rod
And I went to Tony Robbins Business Mastery a few months ago. So, yeah, no, I mean, this is, this and, you know, we’ve been taught to that we learn in college. The problem is, most college professors have never done business. They’ve never started a business. Right. And so, you know, I believe in, you know, like you obviously do now, Shawn, is, is is thought leaders and masterminds and boot camps.

00:19:00:05 – 00:19:13:04
Rod
And, you know, I show this picture at my boot camp with me with hundreds of lanyards, around my neck and my arms from these boot camps that I’ve gone to. Because, you know, that’s really how I. How I educated myself. I never went to college.

00:19:13:04 – 00:19:17:18
Shawn
I agree. I mean, I think it’s one of the best things you can do is educate yourself. So.

00:19:17:20 – 00:19:36:19
Rod
Yeah. Yeah. If you’re considering getting some guidance, you know, so that you can experience the life you want this year instead of, you know, three, 4 or 5, six years from now, or maybe you thought you might be more effective in your networking and and enjoy joining an ecosystem. Text the word crush to seven, two, three, four, or five.

00:19:36:22 – 00:19:56:22
Rod
And just to see if the warrior program might be able to help you overcome any challenges that you have or that challenge, and so that you can accomplish what you want with, you know, with lifetime cash flow. Because that’s what we call our podcast, Lifetime Cash Flow. And that’s what our warriors are creating. Warriors like Shawn here. And and I’m going to tell you, I feel like we fail any warrior that doesn’t join our program.

00:19:56:22 – 00:20:15:19
Rod
And I mean that sincerely. I told Shawn that before we started recording because it’s just so extraordinary. I mean, the success I on our coaching call last night, I talked about the deals that have closed in the fed that people announced in the Facebook group. And and I was going on and on and on. There was so many freaking deals that closed just in the last 60 days.

00:20:15:19 – 00:20:27:12
Rod
It was insane. And so, yeah. So anyway, if you’re interested, text the word crush to 72345. And you know we will do everything we can to help you absolutely crush it in this business.

00:20:27:12 – 00:20:45:23
Mark
I’ve seen a lot of those as well. I’ve seen some some awesome loan assumption deals. I saw a guy, you know, one of the students get, deal 200 and some units at, what, 3.5% interest? Because that was actually. Yeah, yeah, it’s in creative financing, so many different ways to get deals. And I wanted to to bring this up just because.

00:20:45:23 – 00:21:06:17
Mark
Shawn, I know you on your bio, you started in 2010, right? Right after the 2008 crash. And a lot of people don’t even realize, just statistically, the real estate market didn’t hit the bottom until four year. You know, the quote unquote bottom until 2012, four years later. And things are moving very slowly right now. For us, it feels slowly.

00:21:06:19 – 00:21:16:13
Mark
What are some of the similarities and, and maybe some of the differences that you’re seeing and with what’s going on today compared to, back in 2010 when you first got started.

00:21:16:13 – 00:21:40:10
Shawn
Today seems a lot more volatile. It seems to have taken that those peaks and valleys are a lot shorter. In other words, you know, it’s not a it wasn’t a four year or five year cycle. It’s like it went from, you know, January or February, March of last year to the height of the today. You know, we were a, you know, sub 3% interest, you know, 12 months ago.

00:21:40:16 – 00:22:02:11
Shawn
And now we’re a, you know, to get a bridge loan is like 9%, you know, even even the agency loans are five and a half, six, 6.5%. So it just seems like it’s a little bit more volatile. I don’t have, you know, the 2025 year track record, but you know, the single, you know, I was in single family at that time, but, just seems like it’s just a little more volatile today.

00:22:02:13 – 00:22:20:15
Rod
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and I don’t think the, the, the crash as we’re heading into a crash, I’m just going to tell you anybody tells you otherwise, unless the government prints another 2 or 3 trillion and throws it in which they may do. And then God help us with inflation. But, you know, I don’t think it’s really hit yet.

00:22:20:15 – 00:22:38:17
Rod
I think it’s coming. We’re not. So we’re starting to see deals, a lot more deals coming online. But I don’t think the sellers have really been knocked on the side of the head with a two by four yet. And, but I do believe it’s coming. And I know there’s a lot of capital on the sidelines that’s going to go after these larger deals, for sure.

00:22:38:19 – 00:22:56:07
Rod
And so, you know, kind of I, I’m create I’ve created an opportunity fund myself. I’m going to start raising money to take advantage of distressed assets and, but, let me shift gears for a second. So, so, you know, you’re obviously very motivated. You’ve done lots of different things in your career. What what inspires you, brother?

00:22:56:07 – 00:22:57:10
Rod
What what’s the driver?

00:22:57:12 – 00:23:24:12
Shawn
So my why is is my family, you know, my my wife is, has a disease. It’s called, retinitis pigmentosa. So she has about 15%, vision life. So she’s my driver. There’s no current research going on. It’s very minimal because it’s a very, scarcity disease. I guess it’s very rare. So we want to help with that.

00:23:24:14 – 00:23:43:24
Shawn
You know, I obviously want to leave a legacy for my kids. I want them to have, you know, something for their kids. So, you know, I want to spend more time with my family. You know, one of the biggest reasons I jump ship and I, I retired was when I moved back to Dallas and I started this division for this energy company.

00:23:44:01 – 00:23:57:19
Shawn
They had me on the road like 3 or 4 weeks out of the year, or 3 or 4 weeks out of the month. I was getting home. It started off getting home. You know, I was Monday through Friday, right, and getting home on the weekends. And it went to I was getting home once every two weeks to once a month.

00:23:57:24 – 00:24:12:13
Shawn
I’m like, this is it. I’m missing my my son’s soccer games. I’m missing my kids activities. And and so for me, it’s, you know, and for a lot of people it’s their family. But for me in particular, I have a couple reasons. My wife and and being there for my kids.

00:24:12:15 – 00:24:34:22
Rod
Well, wow, I didn’t know that, that’s, man, I, I’m sorry to hear that about your wife. You know, so so, one more question. Is there a quote that you like that you live by? Is anything is there a quote that you like from me? I’ve got a Tony Robbins quote I love live with passion, just, you know, encompass passion in your life.

00:24:34:22 – 00:24:36:24
Rod
Is there a quote that resonates with you?

00:24:37:03 – 00:24:55:07
Shawn
Again? It’s it’s almost like, you know, you know, what’s the what’s your driving factor? What’s what’s the best things? They kind of change, you know, as your journey changes for me. And, and you know, I think the, the quote right now is, is, you know, massive action, you know, you.

00:24:55:10 – 00:24:58:16
Rod
Massive freaking action, massive freaking, you know.

00:24:58:16 – 00:25:15:13
Shawn
Right now in the state of my journey, it’s about taking action and and that’s for me. That’s my driving factor. I get up every day for my family. I want to get out there. It’s it’s, you know, Grant Cardone, one of his one of his success is my duty. That’s one I love it I love it as well.

00:25:15:13 – 00:25:21:21
Shawn
So there’s a couple email exchanges as you, you know, go through your journey in life. But those are probably the top ones right now.

00:25:21:21 – 00:25:41:11
Rod
Yeah, I actually have that one on the wall in my, in my exercise room as well. I’ve stolen 2 or 3 of them from him. Comfort kills is another one he has that I love. Yeah. So. So, what suggestions would you have for someone that is sitting on the sidelines? You know, they see these economic headwinds.

00:25:41:11 – 00:25:59:11
Rod
They’re thinking, okay, maybe they’re maybe rod knows what he’s talking about and there’s going to be some opportunity. And but they haven’t made a move yet. You know, they they know they want more for themselves in their family. They’d love what you have the ability to have retired from it, from a regular quote unquote W-2 to to really create your own time freedom.

00:25:59:13 – 00:26:03:07
Rod
You know, what would you tell someone like that?

00:26:03:09 – 00:26:27:13
Shawn
You know, again, it goes back to I’m a very simple person. I would say, you know, educate yourself like we’ve been talking about, find a good team that that has some experience going through this. Just like you said, there’s going to be some, some really, really good deals coming out in the next. There’s going to be some, some, opportunities out there for all of us.

00:26:27:13 – 00:26:46:11
Shawn
So don’t be scared. Get out, start networking, get with the team. There’s a ton of meet ups, you know, in every city, no matter what city you’re in. So get out there and just start networking and get get the education and get with the team that’s been through this and and take action. Max it action.

00:26:46:13 – 00:27:01:23
Rod
Massive freaking action. Yeah, I love it. You know you got you guys if you haven’t heard me talk about it, if I didn’t bring it up on the intro, this, this episode, get your butt to my frickin boot camp. So we’re going to be, like, a thousand people in Orlando in September 15th and 17th. Awesome, buddy.

00:27:01:23 – 00:27:24:16
Rod
You’ll get to meet Shawn. It’s not a big sales pitch. I talk about my coaching for about a half hour, and the rest of it’s full on training. Drink it through a fire hose. So, I hope you can make it. And the price is ridiculously reasonable. So anyway. Well, listen, brother, I appreciate you coming on. This has been a lot of fun and, really, enjoyed, spent a little time with you like this.

00:27:24:16 – 00:27:29:04
Shawn
Thank you so much. It’s such an honor to be on your program. Thank you very, very much. Rod.

00:27:29:10 – 00:27:49:03
Rod
So, one other quick thing. We encounter so many people that are, frankly, frustrated. You know, they’re looking in the mirror and they’re frustrated that they hadn’t been able to escape the rat race. They haven’t been able to build cash flow to the point where they’re able to have financial and time freedom with their families, you know, and maybe they see other people buying real estate and and creating, you know, incredible cash flow.

00:27:49:03 – 00:28:18:04
Rod
And they think, well, it’s just scary. You know, buying apartments is intimidating. And I get it. See, that’s why we created our warrior mentorship program. There are coaching students and they’ve had extraordinary results. My students I’ve been teaching about five years, and they own upwards of 140,000 units. Now that we know of. Right. And we feel like it’s just getting going now, we’re looking to grow this group and really take it to the next level and honestly believe that the greatest transfer of wealth could be upon us right now with this current economic environment.

00:28:18:06 – 00:28:49:22
Rod
Everything’s going on sale. So we’re looking for people who want to follow a proven framework, really like a blueprint or a map, literally step by step. And then they’re able to leverage our systems and our incredible network to raise money and equity, to find deals and close those deals and build partnerships really nationwide. So if you’re interested in finding out more about how you can become more in our incredible network and take advantage of the unbelievable opportunities that are upon us, you can apply to my Warrior Mentorship program by texting the word crush to 72345.

00:28:50:00 – 00:29:05:02
Rod
Or you can go to mentor with rod.com. And what we’ll do is we’ll set up a call so you can check us out, and we can check you out and see if it’s a fit. Now again you can go to mentor with rod.com or text the word crush to 72345 to apply and we will speak soon.